Aviation Crashes and other FAA News

[ColdBlueSteel]

Oh, this makes less sense to me. I mean, I get it but it's weird. Fortunately, it doesn't matter what I think about it.

Runways are numbered in accordance with the magnetic heading they are oriented along, truncating the last digit. So when you are taking off or landing on runway 33, your compass will indicate a heading of 330 degrees, or north northwest. 0 degrees is north, 180 is south. You can land/takeoff in either direction, so if landing the opposite direction you would be landing on Runway 15 (330 degrees -180 degrees=150). Same strip of pavement but opposite landing direction.

The folks that really know what they are talking about are over here: JIA5342 CRJ700 midair collision with PAT25 Blackhawk at DCA - Page 11 - Airliners.net.
Consensus is helicopter pilot confirmed visual contact with the wrong airplane, possibly partly due to lack of explicit instruction from air traffic controller as to where to look in an incredibly busy airspace with ground lights in the mix.

 

[ZenMode]

I don't think that happens. Even he isn't that dumb.

Well, I was wrong. Holy craaaaaap.....

 

[stankeylegjones]

ALRIGHT. I'm too busy at the moment to relocate all the personal back and forth. I've asked and multiple posters have asked that the personal pissing matches be taken to another thread. We go through this with every disaster discussion, it seems. I've set up a blame & conspiracy theory and personal pissing matches thread here:

Politics Thread 'AA Flight/Blackhawk Collision | Blame, Conspiracy Theories etc / Trump blames DEI'

Jan 30, 2025

If you must continue personal beefs from the info thread , please do it here.

Probably should use this thread for the DEI blame game that has already erupted.

• nycfan
• Replies: 154
• Forum: Politics & Other Topics

PLEASE TAKE THE PERSONAL BACK AND FORTH THERE. Including @superrific and @stankeylegjones

Thanks for creating a new thread, but, I doubt I'll use it, as it's not worth going down into a never-ending hole with him. I'm sorry that you had to create it.

 

[05C40]

ALRIGHT. I'm too busy at the moment to relocate all the personal back and forth. I've asked and multiple posters have asked that the personal pissing matches be taken to another thread. We go through this with every disaster discussion, it seems. I've set up a blame & conspiracy theory and personal pissing matches thread here:

Politics Thread 'AA Flight/Blackhawk Collision | Blame, Conspiracy Theories etc / Trump blames DEI'

Jan 30, 2025

If you must continue personal beefs from the info thread , please do it here.

Probably should use this thread for the DEI blame game that has already erupted.

• nycfan
• Replies: 154
• Forum: Politics & Other Topics

PLEASE TAKE THE PERSONAL BACK AND FORTH THERE. Including @superrific and @stankeylegjones

OK. I understand your sentiment and will try to comply. But if the nut jobs take their comments to a thread I'm never going to read, how will I know who to put on ignore and superignore?

 

[duluoz]

Runways are numbered in accordance with the magnetic heading they are oriented along, truncating the last digit. So when you are taking off or landing on runway 33, your compass will indicate a heading of 330 degrees, or north northwest. 0 degrees is north, 180 is south. You can land/takeoff in either direction, so if landing the opposite direction you would be landing on Runway 15 (330 degrees -180 degrees=150). Same strip of pavement but different landing direction.

The folks that really know what they are talking about are over here: JIA5342 CRJ700 midair collision with PAT25 Blackhawk at DCA - Page 11 - Airliners.net.
Consensus is helicopter pilot confirmed visual contact with the wrong airplane, possibly partly due to lack of explicit instruction from air traffic controller as to where to look in an incredibly busy airspace with ground lights in the mix.

Very cool info.

 

[ZenMode]

If anyone is watching Trump's press conference on the crash, it's absolutely disgusting.

 

[altmin]

By the way, this was supposedly runway 33. Why are there 33 runways at that airport? There can't be that many, are there? I don't get the numbering.

Runways are numbered by degree of direction off True North I believe.

 

[336Heel]

I don't think that happens. Even he isn't that dumb.

And yet he just did.

 

[1moretimeagain]

That was quite appalling.

 

[lawtig02]

And yet he just did.

Any MAGAs want to defend what we're hearing from the president right now? In a true meritocracy, he wouldn't survive two months as president of the HOA. Completely embarrassing for anyone with a functional level of education.

 

[Icky Mettle]

A good friend of mine knows an American Airlines pilot who said he had flown that very plane before. He said a few years back it hit a deer on a runway in Charlotte. Apparently after that, the plane had a sign in the cockpit that said “The Spirit of Bambi.” He said it must have been cursed.

 

[mpaer]

Now all his little flunkies are yammerring about DEI-you know Air traffic controllers , Blackhawk pilots
What a jerk

 

[dukeman92]

Only Felon 47 would turn tragedy into an affront on DEI. What a vile POS.

 

[CFordUNC]

Well, I was wrong. Holy craaaaaap.....

Sincere props to you for coming back to acknowledge it. I will say, I would have much rather you have been right and I had been wrong.

 

[CFordUNC]

Man, this really, really freaking sucks.

 

[lawtig02]

Man, this really, really freaking sucks.

RAPIDLY eclipsing the worst moments of Trump 1.0. And while I hate saying i told you so, MAGA, we ALL told you so.

 

[CFordUNC]

RAPIDLY eclipsing the worst moments of Trump 1.0. And while I hate saying i told you so, MAGA, we ALL told you so.

Defend this, board Republicans. Defend your guy.

 

[altmin]

Man, this really, really freaking sucks.

So Trump didn't get the troll memo about a day of mourning?

 

[Kraftyheel89]

True class and leadership -- Trump makes a ridiculous claim and blames Obama, Biden and DEI as bodies are being pulled from the Potomic. He stated that DEI caused the FAA to hire only very low intelligence people and people with mental issues. His Defense Secretary, VP, and others saying the same stuff.

When pressed on what basis he has formed that conclusion, he responded with, common sense.
He went further to claim that he and his team will clean up all these problems left by Obama and Biden.

 

[Calheel]

True class and leadership -- Trump makes a ridiculous claim and blames Obama, Biden and DEI as bodies are being pulled from the Potomic. He stated that DEI caused the FAA to hire only very low intelligence people and people with mental issues. His Defense Secretary, VP, and others saying the same stuff.

When pressed on what basis he has formed that conclusion, he responded with, common sense.
He went further to claim that he and his team will clean up all these problems left by Obama and Biden.

Oh the FAA thing has been a conservative talking point for awhile:

FAA employees with disabilities targeted by Trump's anti-DEI push

Despite current policy, the FAA during Trump’s first administration actively sought to recruit workers with disabilities.

www.govexec.com