Biden pardons Hunter | Biden commutes sentences of nearly all federal death row inmates to life in prison

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This aligns with Tapper's report on CNN regarding Biden bypassing the normal process for pardons.
Was there any doubt it bypassed the normal process? Trump bypassed the normal process at least a dozen times. I don't recall whether Obama did, but W commuted Scooter Libby outside the normal process. I don't remember exactly about Marc Rich, but I think he was pardoned outside the process.

Pardons sometimes bypass the process. Obviously this one did.
 
Is that ALL you have? Russia? I'll give you a little background on me. I'm a 24-year retired Navy Sailor. I've held a TS/SCI clearance for almost 20 of those years. I've done some of the coolest shit that I can never talk about. If I had knowingly taken sensitive, HIGHLY classified information and then defied a lawful subpoena to return it, I'd already be in Leavenworth making little rocks out of big rocks. The ONLY reason he wasn't tried was that a judge HE nominated to the bench bought the stupid argument that the special counsel was illegally appointed. If that's true, Hunter's case should also be dismissed for the same reason. Your orange savior has done more and been convicted of more crap than you can ever hope to pin on Biden. I'm a big boy, and I do not doubt that Russia influenced the electorate. I don't think it rose to the level of collusion, but they wanted Trump to win.
The inane level of besides from the MAGA party is insane. You guys are completely unable to say that Trump poses a threat to democracy. FFS, I doubt he's EVER set foot in a church (for fear of spontaneous combustion) yet you guys think he's the next messiah. When presented with facts, you defer to irrational, unfounded accusations and swear there's some sort of criminal enterprise that's smart enough to evade prosecution. I've given up trying to talk to any of you guys. You are incapable of rational discussion and I no longer wish to engage your fallacy or right to portray your version of reality as anything less than bat shit crazy.
This is a quality post. I especially like "making little rocks out of big rocks" and "for fear of spontaneous combustion."

And I initially misread the second sentence as saying that you were a 24 year old Navy Sailor. Pretty funny given the next sentence. You would have been one precocious youngun.' Guess it probably wouldn't be too hard to pass a background check at age 6.
 
Was there any doubt it bypassed the normal process? Trump bypassed the normal process at least a dozen times. I don't recall whether Obama did, but W commuted Scooter Libby outside the normal process. I don't remember exactly about Marc Rich, but I think he was pardoned outside the process.

Pardons sometimes bypass the process. Obviously this one did.
Fun fact: I first heard about the whole Lewis "Scooter" Libby controversy on the radio going to work one morning from NPR reporter Libby Lewis.
 
The double standard is real, and we've seen it in practice throughout the presidential campaign and now with this pardon. Trumpers completely shatter norms and their fans and the news media (virtually all of it now) shrugs. Democrats do something much lower on the scale, and it is one of the most outrageous and/or ghastly things ever done. Watching the reaction to this pardon would be almost comical if we all didn't know what was coming down the pike next month. It will make what Biden just did seem utterly trivial by comparison, and we all know it.
On the old ZZL I couldn't get one of these horribly offended folks to admit rape was wrong. It's incredible how far they will fall in some sad attempt to prove they are above it all.
 
Where the fuck were you when all this Trump shit was happening? Sure maybe you will throw out the odd "I think Trump is a criminal too" here and there, but friggin Hunter Biden gets away with some shit and you lose your mind for days on end. FOH asshole.
Bosider making his bosided argument. This pardon is between joe and hunter (with the rest of the biden cartel to follow). These actions have nothing to do with trump. The argument you are making is that two wrongs make it right. I get that you are now realizing your principles aren't as strong as you thought they were when trump was in office and was being legally targeted. I don't think it was just "some shit". I think it was way more than the gun charge and tax evasion. That's why daddy issued the pardon to go back 11 years. Wouldn't you agree that you thought trump was doing much more serious shit with russia than paying off a hooker and fudging his asset valuation? I understand how hard it is for you. Hypocrisy is a hard thing to see when you look in the mirror. Hopefully you just want the truth to be brought to light.
 
Is that ALL you have? Russia? I'll give you a little background on me. I'm a 24-year retired Navy Sailor. I've held a TS/SCI clearance for almost 20 of those years. I've done some of the coolest shit that I can never talk about. If I had knowingly taken sensitive, HIGHLY classified information and then defied a lawful subpoena to return it, I'd already be in Leavenworth making little rocks out of big rocks. The ONLY reason he wasn't tried was that a judge HE nominated to the bench bought the stupid argument that the special counsel was illegally appointed. If that's true, Hunter's case should also be dismissed for the same reason. Your orange savior has done more and been convicted of more crap than you can ever hope to pin on Biden. I'm a big boy, and I do not doubt that Russia influenced the electorate. I don't think it rose to the level of collusion, but they wanted Trump to win.
The inane level of besides from the MAGA party is insane. You guys are completely unable to say that Trump poses a threat to democracy. FFS, I doubt he's EVER set foot in a church (for fear of spontaneous combustion) yet you guys think he's the next messiah. When presented with facts, you defer to irrational, unfounded accusations and swear there's some sort of criminal enterprise that's smart enough to evade prosecution. I've given up trying to talk to any of you guys. You are incapable of rational discussion and I no longer wish to engage your fallacy or right to portray your version of reality as anything less than bat shit crazy.
Respect to you for your 24 years of service. What did you do in the navy?
 
Soo funny

Biden will now be forced to pardon the rest of the Crime Family since Hunter will now be forced to fully testify about the family “business” due to the fact that the pardon will not allow him to take the 5th. Otherwise, he’ll face perjury.
 
Soo funny

Biden will now be forced to pardon the rest of the Crime Family since Hunter will now be forced to fully testify about the family “business” due to the fact that the pardon will not allow him to take the 5th. Otherwise, he’ll face perjury.
Number of Biden family members that have pleaded the fifth: 0

Number of times Trump pleaded the fifth in just one trial surrounding the family “business”: 440
 
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I just can't care anymore. Both sides think they have some moral high ground and they don't.
 
I think that, if I were Biden, with the vindictiveness of the Republican Party, the lack of support and appreciation by his party and and the treatment by the press, I'd be at the fuck anybody who's not family stage. I've never seen anybody who did as much good who got as little appreciation and respect.
 
Bosider making his bosided argument. This pardon is between joe and hunter (with the rest of the biden cartel to follow). These actions have nothing to do with trump. The argument you are making is that two wrongs make it right. I get that you are now realizing your principles aren't as strong as you thought they were when trump was in office and was being legally targeted. I don't think it was just "some shit". I think it was way more than the gun charge and tax evasion. That's why daddy issued the pardon to go back 11 years. Wouldn't you agree that you thought trump was doing much more serious shit with russia than paying off a hooker and fudging his asset valuation? I understand how hard it is for you. Hypocrisy is a hard thing to see when you look in the mirror. Hopefully you just want the truth to be brought to light.
First your reading comprehension sucks. I said nothing about justifying Hunter Biden's pardon. I don't believe I've said anything about it on this board, but prior to this I was against it and I still think it's wrong, but I certainly understand it given Trump's clearly stated goals. That said, my post was about how you lose your shit over this pardon and spew for days and days of posts about it and when Trump does one of the multitude of clearly more horrible things than this you shrug and offer a sentence of "well I don't support that" and then vote for him anyway. If you gave one tenth of the effort decrying Trump's terrible actions as you have on HUNTER Biden then this board would only have posts from you on the first several dozen pages. You are a cultist acting like a bo-sider while you accuse others of bo-siding. It's pathetic and transparent.
 
First your reading comprehension sucks. I said nothing about justifying Hunter Biden's pardon. I don't believe I've said anything about it on this board, but prior to this I was against it and I still think it's wrong, but I certainly understand it given Trump's clearly stated goals. That said, my post was about how you lose your shit over this pardon and spew for days and days of posts about it and when Trump does one of the multitude of clearly more horrible things than this you shrug and offer a sentence of "well I don't support that" and then vote for him anyway. If you gave one tenth of the effort decrying Trump's terrible actions as you have on HUNTER Biden then this board would only have posts from you on the first several dozen pages. You are a cultist acting like a bo-sider while you accuse others of bo-siding. It's pathetic and transparent.
You might even describe his behavior as…hypocritical?
 
First your reading comprehension sucks. I said nothing about justifying Hunter Biden's pardon. I don't believe I've said anything about it on this board, but prior to this I was against it and I still think it's wrong, but I certainly understand it given Trump's clearly stated goals. That said, my post was about how you lose your shit over this pardon and spew for days and days of posts about it and when Trump does one of the multitude of clearly more horrible things than this you shrug and offer a sentence of "well I don't support that" and then vote for him anyway. If you gave one tenth of the effort decrying Trump's terrible actions as you have on HUNTER Biden then this board would only have posts from you on the first several dozen pages. You are a cultist acting like a bo-sider while you accuse others of bo-siding. It's pathetic and transparent.
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This is a quality post. I especially like "making little rocks out of big rocks" and "for fear of spontaneous combustion."

And I initially misread the second sentence as saying that you were a 24 year old Navy Sailor. Pretty funny given the next sentence. You would have been one precocious youngun.' Guess it probably wouldn't be too hard to pass a background check at age 6.
Man .... precocious. I haven't heard that term in a hot minute. I didn't actually join the Navy until I was 28 so I'm feeling every bit of those 24 years. Ha!
 
Soo funny

Biden will now be forced to pardon the rest of the Crime Family since Hunter will now be forced to fully testify about the family “business” due to the fact that the pardon will not allow him to take the 5th. Otherwise, he’ll face perjury.
Is that your prediction? Can we hold you to this assumption that Hunter will in fact testify about the "family business"? If it turns out that the whole "family business" was bullshit all along, will you leave and never come back?
 
Is that your prediction? Can we hold you to this assumption that Hunter will in fact testify about the "family business"? If it turns out that the whole "family business" was bullshit all along, will you leave and never come back?
That’s all they have. They want to score points for Trump for what they hope will happen in the future. Like when Trump claimed Xi promised to buy additional soybeans from the US after Trump’s first stupid round of trade wars. The MAGAs claimed victory even though any thinking person knew it would never materialize (and it didn’t).
This go around I’m keeping track of actual accomplishments. Not stupid crap like, “he spoke to the PM of Canada.” That is not an accomplishment.
What has Trump actually accomplished so far?
Nothing I can think of except making mortgage interest rates increase substantially at a time when just doing nothing would have been far superior. He should be held responsible for that.
If his talk about Tariffs yield some benefit in the future, we can take it into account then.
But Trump doesn’t get points just because the MAGAs are wishcasting.
So by my count, Trump has so far caused damage to our good economy and hasn’t helped it in any way anyone has been able to point to.
 
First your reading comprehension sucks. I said nothing about justifying Hunter Biden's pardon. I don't believe I've said anything about it on this board, but prior to this I was against it and I still think it's wrong, but I certainly understand it given Trump's clearly stated goals. That said, my post was about how you lose your shit over this pardon and spew for days and days of posts about it and when Trump does one of the multitude of clearly more horrible things than this you shrug and offer a sentence of "well I don't support that" and then vote for him anyway. If you gave one tenth of the effort decrying Trump's terrible actions as you have on HUNTER Biden then this board would only have posts from you on the first several dozen pages. You are a cultist acting like a bo-sider while you accuse others of bo-siding. It's pathetic and transparent.
See, I think you have a comprehension problem. I have zero problem with the pardon. Hell, I’m celebrating the pardon. This is why.

 
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