Biorhythms for U of L @UNC: 7 pm Start

Bigs23 said:
Free throw shooting is not easy to coach. Yes you can teach form, technique, approach, but coaching players to make them under game pressure is not so easy.

And spending time on it in practice doesn't really work either.

These guys can make free throws they just need to start making them and hopefully it clicks in.
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I respectfully disagree. Practice may not make perfect, but it is key. And coaches can teach form and routine and implore players to value foul shooting. Coaches can have players shoot foul shots at the end of practice and tell them they cannot leave until they make 9 of 10.

That is what I did with my grandson when we began working out. He was a typical 3 point loving wanna to be able to dunk youngster . My message to him was they call them free throws because no one is guarding you and each one counts for 1 point. I also educated him about Tyler Hansbrough and how his foul shot making contributed to his success at UNC. I never allowed us to end our workout until he made 9 of 10 FTs. He improved pretty quickly with that motivation.

He improved considerably and as senior in HS he now shoots well over 80% from the FT line and is the leading scorer in his small conference.
 
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Since high school I've been a 75-80%+ free throw shooter (and that counts for games). As a point guard I knew very early on that was key. I can still hit 8 of 10, sometimes 10 of 10, most of the time.

It is about routine, routine, routine. That includes balance and follow through.

I learned that from the aforementioned Coach John Lotz. If you don't know who he is/was you should.

John Lotz - Wikipedia

He was a Tar Heel great. Coach Smith mentions him a good deal in A Coach's Life. When Coach split up with his first wife I believe Coach Lotz was his housemate.
 
superrific said:
You must be miserable to watch a game with. You're like 90% negativity.
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I just am pointing out things that need to improve. It is baffling why both the rebounding and free throw shooting have been so bad. That's just something that is totally on the players. Rebounding is all about hustle and making sure you find someone to box out. Free throw shooting is about concentration and repetition, using the same ritual each time and being able to relax at the line. Not sure why you don't think fans can be happy with the win but still see things that need to improve and not be happy with letting Louisville come back because of the rebounding and free throw shooting.
 
C-Money said:
I just am pointing out things that need to improve. It is baffling why both the rebounding and free throw shooting have been so bad. That's just something that is totally on the players. Rebounding is all about hustle and making sure you find someone to box out. Free throw shooting is about concentration and repetition, using the same ritual each time and being able to relax at the line. Not sure why you don't think fans can be happy with the win but still see things that need to improve and not be happy with letting Louisville come back because of the rebounding and free throw shooting.
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To quote Spiro Agnew, you're a nattering nabob of negativism. You notice everything wrong, little right and harp on things like only you notice them and that you can change them. It also bothers me that your characterizations (and posting character) seems a bit mutable and inconsistent.
 
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I hope a part of the Heels' atrocious rebounding was due to Henri not being 100% with the short turnaround from Saturday's game @ Syracuse. He'll now have 5 full days to rest with no travel so I bet Saturday's effort will be better. No excuse for the rest of the team.
 
donbosco said:
Since high school I've been a 75-80%+ free throw shooter (and that counts for games). As a point guard I knew very early on that was key. I can still hit 8 of 10, sometimes 10 of 10, most of the time.

It is about routine, routine, routine. That includes balance and follow through.

I learned that from the aforementioned Coach John Lotz. If you don't know who he is/was you should.

John Lotz - Wikipedia

He was a Tar Heel great. Coach Smith mentions him a good deal in A Coach's Life. When Coach split up with his first wife I believe Coach Lotz was his housemate.
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You are so right !

When I started working out with my grandson, I noticed he would twist his wrist on his FT shots. We corrected that over time. With each shot he missed I said you twisted. The other thing I would remind him is to envision your follow through extending out and going over the front of the rim . The other thing I told him is to always have the same routine. Decide where you want to be on the foul line, how you want to establish your balance in the set up, and how many dribbles you want to take before shooting and then never deviate from that routine.

It got to a point where I wanted him to miss one so we could go home 🙏 His record in our workouts was 24 made before he missed
 
finesse said:
To quote Spiro Agnew, you're a nattering nabob of negativism. You notice everything wrong, little right and harp on things like you only you notice them and that you can change them. It also bothers me that your characterizations (and posting character) seems a bit mutable and inconsistent.
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I guess it is hard for me to just enjoy the games and be a fan and not also someone who has played basketball for over 40 years and has coached.
 
C-Money said:
I guess it is hard for me to just enjoy the games and be a fan and not also someone who has played basketball for over 40 years and has coached.
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Do you mutter while you read?

We all like to talk about the games but when your approach to that sucks the enjoyment for the games from others, you might want to rein in a bit. I'm not saying not to engage but put some thought into just how much you're saying sometimes. We all want to enjoy the games.
 
Ramrouser said:
I hope a part of the Heels' atrocious rebounding was due to Henri not being 100% with the short turnaround from Saturday's game @ Syracuse. He'll now have 5 full days to rest with no travel so I bet Saturday's effort will be better. No excuse for the rest of the team.
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I think that is possible. I noticed Henri land somewhat awkwardly late in the second half and then start limping as he ran up the court. I suspect it is going to flare up throughout the rest of the season and he will just need to manage it.
 
Veesaar was averaging right at 9 rpg until his injury. He has gathered 5 over the two games since his return. Some of that is probably because other teams can concentrate their best efforts at keeping him off the boards without Wilson to worry about too. Some must be attributed to injury/return after missing 10 days or so of play and practice.
 
Turd Ferguson said:
I guess it is hard for me to just enjoy the games and be a fan and not also someone who has played basketball for over 40 years and has coached.
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It's not that hard.

Trust that the players and coaches would also like to improve things after every game.

It hard to throw a perfect game every time out.
 
heelinhell said:
I respectfully disagree. Practice may not make perfect, but it is key. And coaches can teach form and routine and implore players to value foul shooting. Coaches can have players shoot foul shots at the end of practice and tell them they cannot leave until they make 9 of 10.

That is what I did with my grandson when we began working out. He was a typical 3 point loving wanna to be able to dunk youngster . My message to him was they call them free throws because no one is guarding you and each one counts for 1 point. I also educated him about Tyler Hansbrough and how his foul shot making contributed to his success at UNC. I never allowed us to end our workout until he made 9 of 10 FTs. He improved pretty quickly with that motivation.

He improved considerably and as senior in HS he now shoots well over 80% from the FT line and is the leading scorer in his small conference.
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As a former basketball coach, I’ll weigh in here…

At the end of practice - and after we’d run our end of practice suicides - we would randomly choose a player (always a starter to begin with) and put them on the FT line, shooting 2 FT’s. If he missed only one, the whole team would have to run one more suicide. Of he missed them both, the whole team had to run 3 more suicides. If he made them both, no one ran.

Then we’d allow him to choose the next player to put on the line. Wash rinse and repeat until we had at least 2 players in a row make both FTs.

That’s one way to simulate “pressure” on FTs in practice.

For some added fun, before a player would shoot, we would ask the team “who thinks he will make this next FT?” If players thought he would, we told them to move to the other side of the court. If they thought he would miss, they stayed on. More pressure on the shooter.

If he made it, all those who thought he would miss had to run a suicide. And vice-versa.

It wasn’t long before you had the entire team betting the player would MAKE the FT… even if the team knew that particular player wasn’t usually very good at shooting FTs.

It was a way of instilling camaraderie and confidence.

Did the “practice” work? Perhaps. But the team got some extra cardio in after practice, and we were able to put simulated pressure on the shooters. The game wasn’t on the line, but…
 
Random thought: why does C-money and Turd Ferguson show up as having the same quotes attributed to both of them, sort of randomly… or whatever… not sure what’s going on

Or is it just my iPad mini going squirrelly
 
I've always wondered if there is a correlation between the intelligence of posts made by multiple aliases and mob intelligence.
 
Centerpiece said:
Random thought: why does C-money and Turd Ferguson show up as having the same quotes attributed to both of them, sort of randomly… or whatever… not sure what’s going on

Or is it just my iPad mini going squirrelly
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No, it's not just you. I was getting ready to post the same thing. Is it the same poster?
 
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