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UNCatTech said:
He and Wilson are both studs and they are carrying this team.

I know we can't change the past, but I believe this is a better team with Cadeau.
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Think it was a situation where things had gotten toxic for both sides and it was just time for a change of scenery.

It would definitely be nice to have someone like Cadeau with stronger handles and better passing than what we’ve seen so far. The backcourt is a big question mark. We have a few guys with potential though. Hopefully one of them can step up soon.
 
Peppers49 said:
It would definitely be nice to have someone like Cadeau with stronger handles and better passing than what we’ve seen so far. The backcourt is a big question mark. We have a few guys with potential though. Hopefully one of them can step up soon.
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The main reason the backcourt is so questionable is that everyone forgot how to shoot. In theory, Luka should be a more than adequate replacement, but he needs to be consistent and in at least the high 30s from 3 to be playable.
 
Geisterfahrer said:
regular season is half over homeslice, it’s a good sample size.
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It is 61 shots. It is not a good sample size. I had this discussion about Seth Trimble two years ago, when he shot 41%. It was a sample size of about 30 and I said that he was unlikely to be shooting anywhere near that in the future. And I was right. 61 is not that much more than 30 from a statistical sample POV.

The reason I think it won't last is that his FT shooting is exactly where it was last two seasons. I mean, 64%, 67.0%, 67.6%. Not many guys who shoot 67% from FT and also 40%+ from 3.
 
I’ve watched Michigan a few times, Cadeau still with the same dookish tactics as before — baiting players and refs, hurling himself to the floor to sell fouls, et al. I don’t miss it.

Clearly HD saw something in the overall dynamic that made him want to move on. It wasn’t based on talent, so I’ll of course defer to him as to what guided the decision. Obviously it wasn’t made lightly.

Good for him he’s playing better. So are the Heels.
 
superrific said:
It is 61 shots. It is not a good sample size. I had this discussion about Seth Trimble two years ago, when he shot 41%. It was a sample size of about 30 and I said that he was unlikely to be shooting anywhere near that in the future. And I was right. 61 is not that much more than 30 from a statistical sample POV.

The reason I think it won't last is that his FT shooting is exactly where it was last two seasons. I mean, 64%, 67.0%, 67.6%. Not many guys who shoot 67% from FT and also 40%+ from 3.
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Well if the measure is a season, half the season would be good sample size. I think the key here is he most likely is getting better shots. He and RJ last year ended up with ball at the end of the shit clock. Has happened to Evans too much this year.
 
heel79 said:
Yea cadeau was beat up good by our fans. He could get in the lane at will but didn't have anyone to dish too. Would have thrived on this team. Never heard Hubert didn't want back but I don't really know. He is having A-A Year.
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I wouldn't say he's having an AA season. Maybe all Big Ten.
 
superrific said:
The main reason the backcourt is so questionable is that everyone forgot how to shoot. In theory, Luka should be a more than adequate replacement, but he needs to be consistent and in at least the high 30s from 3 to be playable.
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I'd say PG play is questionable. Seth is just fine at the 2.

As you said, backcourt shooting for s concerning.
 
heel79 said:
Well if the measure is a season, half the season would be good sample size. I think the key here is he most likely is getting better shots. He and RJ last year ended up with ball at the end of the shit clock. Has happened to Evans too much this year.
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Guess we are looking at different things. I'm trying to answer the question, "how much better has he gotten as a shooter?" In that question, a full season sample's size isn't nearly enough to answer. When guys have "good seasons" shooting, it's not usually because they got better that year but because the sample still as noise from a relatively small sample size. There's a more technical understanding that draws heavily on abstract statistical theory, but I very much doubt you care about that.

Let's suppose that EC is really now a 37% 3 point shooter. He's shooting 43% because there has been some set of fluctuations go his way. That means one can predict going forward he will shoot 37%. That predicts the season FG% because it predicts regression to the mean (i.e. if half his attempts are at 43% and half are at 37%, he'll end up at 40% the rest of the year). But I'll bet that going forward his 3 point percentage is more like 35%.
 
superrific said:
Guess we are looking at different things. I'm trying to answer the question, "how much better has he gotten as a shooter?" In that question, a full season sample's size isn't nearly enough to answer. When guys have "good seasons" shooting, it's not usually because they got better that year but because the sample still as noise from a relatively small sample size. There's a more technical understanding that draws heavily on abstract statistical theory, but I very much doubt you care about that.

Let's suppose that EC is really now a 37% 3 point shooter. He's shooting 43% because there has been some set of fluctuations go his way. That means one can predict going forward he will shoot 37%. That predicts the season FG% because it predicts regression to the mean (i.e. if half his attempts are at 43% and half are at 37%, he'll end up at 40% the rest of the year). But I'll bet that going forward his 3 point percentage is more like 35%.
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Further to your point, Cadeau is a 67% free throw shooter this year, which is what he was last year. If he had suddenly become a better shooter, it should show up on the line, too.
 
donbosco said:
I did know that but chose not to include.
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Wait! You intentionally chose not to include the hottest band in the land and the greatest band to ever rock this planet. Fighting words. You sir, are no Professor. If you choose not to include, you still have made a choice. Your freewill has been revoked. You sir, are a cell of un-awareness.



 
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