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bassydude77

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Given the recent statement from Mark Kelly regarding both sides tamping down heated rhetoric, I was curious who on the left (with a significant audience) would be similar to Stephen Miller, Charlie Kirk, President Trump, Jessie Waters, etc.

Is calling some actions and members of the current administration fascists the same as as talking about Dems as enemies of the state?

What are examples of boths sides inflammatory rhetoric (again from someone with an actual audience, not some rando on TikTok).
 
bassydude77 said:
Given the recent statement from Mark Kelly regarding both sides tamping down heated rhetoric, I was curious who on the left (with a significant audience) would be similar to Stephen Miller, Charlie Kirk, President Trump, Jessie Waters, etc.

Is calling some actions and members of the current administration fascists the same as as talking about Dems as enemies of the state?

What are examples of boths sides inflammatory rhetoric (again from someone with an actual audience, not some rando on TikTok).
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I can't think of anybody on the left that got as popular with that kind of vitriolic rhetoric. Keith olbermann tried. Don Lemon tried it in kind of a milder way. I'm sure there are people on the left (or people who are morally flexible) who are talented enough to do the nutso incitement schtick if there was money in it but it never really got the traction that it did on the right.
 
bassydude77 said:
Given the recent statement from Mark Kelly regarding both sides tamping down heated rhetoric, I was curious who on the left (with a significant audience) would be similar to Stephen Miller, Charlie Kirk, President Trump, Jessie Waters, etc.

Is calling some actions and members of the current administration fascists the same as as talking about Dems as enemies of the state?

What are examples of boths sides inflammatory rhetoric (again from someone with an actual audience, not some rando on TikTok).
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it's a bullshit conservative framing. they'll see somebody accurately describe words or actions as sexist, racist, homophobic, otherwise bigoted, or even fascist, and purposefully misunderstand this as people being called sexists, racists, homophobes, bigots, fascists, and then feign outrage at this gross impugnment of those people's characters - sexists, racists, etc are the scum of the earth, it is the height of personal insult to be called one! this allows them to not actually engage with the thing that was said or done because of how grave they pretend the insult was, and to say that "the left" engages in rhetoric as extreme as the right does -- but once again, the rhetoric and the perceived extremeness are all entirely theirs.

the game was basically entirely given away when they reacted to Walz's "weird" comment with that same level of aghastness. they started making up ways that "weird" is actually super dehumanizing and misanthropic and whatever else other than a weak schoolyard insult.

like, i'm supposed to act like calling a republican weird is worse than Charlie Kirk fantasizing about his daughter carrying her hypothetical rapist's baby?
 
bassydude77 said:
Given the recent statement from Mark Kelly regarding both sides tamping down heated rhetoric, I was curious who on the left (with a significant audience) would be similar to Stephen Miller, Charlie Kirk, President Trump, Jessie Waters, etc.

Is calling some actions and members of the current administration fascists the same as as talking about Dems as enemies of the state?

What are examples of boths sides inflammatory rhetoric (again from someone with an actual audience, not some rando on TikTok).
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Would you consider anti-Israel (thinking Boulder and DC) assassinations to be left? If so, those would qualify.
 
Calheel said:
Would you consider anti-Israel (thinking Boulder and DC) assassinations to be left? If so, those would qualify.
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Too many other reasons to object to Israel than just American politics although assassination is always, imo, wrong.

If I might digress, The Jewish sicarii in 1st century ACE was one of the first organized groups to regularly use political assassinations.
 
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