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No big deal. Just thought others would like to know before the next immigration thread pops up on here. Some might want to adjust their arguments (at least until the election is over).
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If you just threw in a “MAGAT” or “Trumper”…
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Problem is, I have a memory. Not a great one, but good enough to remember as far back as to Trump’s presidency. While you might not agree with its validity, the argument that the border wall and anyone that supported its construction were racist has been made many times on these boards, often by the very same usernames that seem to be the most vociferous of Harris supporters. As someone who has contunuously supported the construction of a wall as a part of efforts to increase control of illegal immigration, I’d be interested in hearing from those who have made that argument in the past. Do they hide behind the “it’s just a compromise” nonsense, have they changed their opinions on the issue, or are they okay with just a little racism in order to pick up a few votes? That’s a fair question to ask after years of being labeled racist, no?
I'm guessing he did not read the article beyond the click bait headline.We can also read the link you provide and see how much you are trolling.
She is supporting bi partisan legislation. The GOP is the party that wants the wall. The issue with the wall is not that it is racist but that it is ineffective. There ARE provisions in the bill that ARE effective though - and the way congress works is that you often have to compromise to gain a net positive.
Did I ever say the wall was racist? No, I did not. Keep that in mind while I respond to your post.Accuse of trolling? Check.
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If you just threw in a “MAGAT” or “Trumper”…
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Problem is, I have a memory. Not a great one, but good enough to remember as far back as to Trump’s presidency. While you might not agree with its validity, the argument that the border wall and anyone that supported its construction were racist has been made many times on these boards, often by the very same usernames that seem to be the most vociferous of Harris supporters. As someone who has contunuously supported the construction of a wall as a part of efforts to increase control of illegal immigration, I’d be interested in hearing from those who have made that argument in the past. Do they hide behind the “it’s just a compromise” nonsense, have they changed their opinions on the issue, or are they okay with just a little racism in order to pick up a few votes? That’s a fair question to ask after years of being labeled racist, no?
So first of all, the original post is pretty straightforwardly a classic trolling attempt. You made no real attempt to discuss the article you were posting (if you even read it), to give your own opinion on it, or to solicit other people's opinions on it. Instead, you used a snarky, rage-baiting title that posits a strawman position and was meant to antagonize, not to seek discussion or debate. Then, in this follow-up post, you made clear that this post is just some sort of gotcha based on the fact that you were supposedly told years ago that you were racist because of something something border wall. In other words, this is just some vague airing of grievances in which you apparently expect us to remember verbatim, take responsibility for, and apologize for unidentified posts by unidentified posters made years ago. How exactly are we supposed to do that?Accuse of trolling? Check.
Change/minimize subject of thread? Check.
Backtrack, spin, and excuse? Check.
Question source? Check.
If you just threw in a “MAGAT” or “Trumper”…
7/10
Problem is, I have a memory. Not a great one, but good enough to remember as far back as to Trump’s presidency. While you might not agree with its validity, the argument that the border wall and anyone that supported its construction were racist has been made many times on these boards, often by the very same usernames that seem to be the most vociferous of Harris supporters. As someone who has contunuously supported the construction of a wall as a part of efforts to increase control of illegal immigration, I’d be interested in hearing from those who have made that argument in the past. Do they hide behind the “it’s just a compromise” nonsense, have they changed their opinions on the issue, or are they okay with just a little racism in order to pick up a few votes? That’s a fair question to ask after years of being labeled racist, no?
You can sell that horseshit to someone else; I’m not buying. That weak bill was nothing more than a last minute ploy by the administration to show some sort of action/enforcement/interest in the border in an election year. After, three years of utter incompetence. Please. And if this was such a truly “bipartisan” bill, it would have flown through the Senate. Quite frankly, I’m surprised the feckless R’s didn’t help pass it; that would’ve been par for the course for those dumbasses.If you want immigration reform, Harris supports the bipartisan bill and Trump does not. That’s the bottom line.
If you support the bipartisan bill, then Harris is the preferred candidate on that point.
But some can’t admit that so they pull out some lame “flip-flopping” angle in an attempt to obfuscate.
We get it. Trump is a terrible candidate so you have to grasp at anything so you can have some excuse for supporting him.
I’d say “good try,” but it really isn’t.
You obviously never read the bill, have no idea what was in it.You can sell that horseshit to someone else; I’m not buying. That weak bill was nothing more than a last minute ploy by the administration to show some sort of action/enforcement/interest in the border in an election year. After, three years of utter incompetence. Please. And if this was such a truly “bipartisan” bill, it would have flown through the Senate. Quite frankly, I’m surprised the feckless R’s didn’t help pass it; that would’ve been par for the course for those dumbasses.
Besides, if you never thought border walls were racist in the first place, my poasts weren’t addressing you.
lol come on man.You can sell that horseshit to someone else; I’m not buying. That weak bill was nothing more than a last minute ploy by the administration to show some sort of action/enforcement/interest in the border in an election year. After, three years of utter incompetence. Please. And if this was such a truly “bipartisan” bill, it would have flown through the Senate. Quite frankly, I’m surprised the feckless R’s didn’t help pass it; that would’ve been par for the course for those dumbasses.
Besides, if you never thought border walls were racist in the first place, my poasts weren’t addressing you.
It’s really bizarre that most of the people who post on this board don’t see the “bipartisan bill” for what it was - a desperate attempt to finally take action (after 3 years of inaction) on the border crisis, and remove the Biden/Harris administration’s biggest weakness from being an issue in the 2024 election. It was all politics. Just as the Republicans killing the bill in an election year was also all politics.You can sell that horseshit to someone else; I’m not buying. That weak bill was nothing more than a last minute ploy by the administration to show some sort of action/enforcement/interest in the border in an election year. After, three years of utter incompetence. Please. And if this was such a truly “bipartisan” bill, it would have flown through the Senate. Quite frankly, I’m surprised the feckless R’s didn’t help pass it; that would’ve been par for the course for those dumbasses.
Besides, if you never thought border walls were racist in the first place, my poasts weren’t addressing you.