Charlie Kirk as a martyr



Kirk’s Christian Supporters Mourn Him as a Martyr​

“Charlie died for what he believed in,” said Jackson Lahmeyer, a pastor in Oklahoma.

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Charlie Kirk’s Christian Supporters Mourn Him as a Martyr

“Charlie died for what he believed in,” said Jackson Lahmeyer, a pastor in Oklahoma.
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“… Intercessors for America, a Christian group with ties to the Trump administration, emailed supporters on Wednesday night with a suggested prayer in response to Mr. Kirk’s death. The subject line referred to “Charlie Kirk, a modern day MLK.”

… Mr. Kirk began his career as a secular provocateur. He said little about the role of religion in American politics in his early years as an activist.

That started to change during the Covid pandemic, he told The New York Times this year. He was disappointed in church leaders who failed to speak up against lockdowns, he said, and began reading and asking larger questions about the idea of shared morality.

Mr. Kirk emerged from the pandemic, and from Mr. Trump’s defeat in the 2020 election, ready to evangelize for more than political causes and candidates. In 2021, he founded TPUSA Faith to influence pastors and other Christians to “counter falsehoods and illuminate the inextricable link between faith and God-given liberty.” He hosted monthly events at a large evangelical megachurch in Arizona and spoke regularly in personal terms about his own faith.

… To many conservative Christians, his death was a sign that the spiritual battle they had been fighting was far from over.

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“Jesus told us this would happen,” said Shane Winnings, who heads Promise Keepers, an evangelical men’s organization that has leaned into partisan politics under his leadership. “There’s a real spiritual war going on.”

Mr. Kirk spoke at a Promise Keepers event in Oklahoma last year and invited Mr. Winnings to speak at several of his own gatherings.

Within hours of Mr. Kirk’s death, Mr. Winnings and other conservative Christian leaders were speaking of the event as a demarcation in the nation’s history, one that would lead only to the strengthening of the religious movement Mr. Kirk embodied.

“When Jesus was killed and then rose from the dead and visited the disciples and he ascended, they moved forward and they spawned the early church,” Mr. Winnings said. “I am more filled with determination than ever to continue the mission that I’m on.”…”
 
It’s easy for mentally-unstable lunatics like Loomer to make threatening/foreboding threats from behind the comfort of a keyboard and a security detail. People like her, and the vast majority of the losers on the right, would fold like cheap tents at the very first prospect of violence.
 


^ This is several years old, preceding the 2020 Election

Paraphrasing: If we (MAGA) lose the election, it's fraudulent. If we win, it's legit. This theme was stated by their Dear Leader at least as early as 2016, if not before.

Listen from 2:00 to the end of the video in particular. They've been building these "ideas” over multi media sources and in-person for years and his candidacy and election, etc. amplified their voices.

It won't matter who the suspect, Dead or Alive, is - this will just be more fuel for them to toss on their emPassioned and fervent Fire to bring the USA under their "One True God” and his "colorful" Ambassador here on Earth.
 
nycfan said:


Kirk’s Christian Supporters Mourn Him as a Martyr​

“Charlie died for what he believed in,” said Jackson Lahmeyer, a pastor in Oklahoma.

www.nytimes.com

Charlie Kirk’s Christian Supporters Mourn Him as a Martyr

“Charlie died for what he believed in,” said Jackson Lahmeyer, a pastor in Oklahoma.
www.nytimes.com www.nytimes.com

“… Intercessors for America, a Christian group with ties to the Trump administration, emailed supporters on Wednesday night with a suggested prayer in response to Mr. Kirk’s death. The subject line referred to “Charlie Kirk, a modern day MLK.”

… Mr. Kirk began his career as a secular provocateur. He said little about the role of religion in American politics in his early years as an activist.

That started to change during the Covid pandemic, he told The New York Times this year. He was disappointed in church leaders who failed to speak up against lockdowns, he said, and began reading and asking larger questions about the idea of shared morality.

Mr. Kirk emerged from the pandemic, and from Mr. Trump’s defeat in the 2020 election, ready to evangelize for more than political causes and candidates. In 2021, he founded TPUSA Faith to influence pastors and other Christians to “counter falsehoods and illuminate the inextricable link between faith and God-given liberty.” He hosted monthly events at a large evangelical megachurch in Arizona and spoke regularly in personal terms about his own faith.

… To many conservative Christians, his death was a sign that the spiritual battle they had been fighting was far from over.

…
“Jesus told us this would happen,” said Shane Winnings, who heads Promise Keepers, an evangelical men’s organization that has leaned into partisan politics under his leadership. “There’s a real spiritual war going on.”

Mr. Kirk spoke at a Promise Keepers event in Oklahoma last year and invited Mr. Winnings to speak at several of his own gatherings.

Within hours of Mr. Kirk’s death, Mr. Winnings and other conservative Christian leaders were speaking of the event as a demarcation in the nation’s history, one that would lead only to the strengthening of the religious movement Mr. Kirk embodied.

“When Jesus was killed and then rose from the dead and visited the disciples and he ascended, they moved forward and they spawned the early church,” Mr. Winnings said. “I am more filled with determination than ever to continue the mission that I’m on.”…”
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The Presidential Medal of Freedom ceased to have any meaning when Rush got one.
 
4thgenheel said:
bueller? bueller? anyone? @ZenMode
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As to the first point:

"The US State Department wants you to report foreigners living in the US who glorify political violence and who cheer the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Please document all of the glorification of violence you find so we can remove violent foreigners on visas from our country."

I'm all for it. We aren't obligated to keep bad non-citizens here.

As to everything else..

some combination of idiotic conspiracy theorizing and dangerous rhetoric. I have never denied that dangerous rhetoric doesn't exist on the right, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.
 
ZenMode said:
As to the first point:

"The US State Department wants you to report foreigners living in the US who glorify political violence and who cheer the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Please document all of the glorification of violence you find so we can remove violent foreigners on visas from our country."

I'm all for it. We aren't obligated to keep bad non-citizens here.

As to everything else..

some combination of idiotic conspiracy theorizing and dangerous rhetoric. I have never denied that dangerous rhetoric doesn't exist on the right, so I'm not sure where you're going with this.
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well, i personally find "glorifying political violence and cheering assassinations" distasteful but that's absurd and a clear violation of 1A and where was this energy when dems were getting attacked and killed? pelosi, hortman, etc. etc. etc.

and i never said that you claimed there was no dangerous rhetoric on the right. you repeatedly trying to assign way more blame than is deserved to the left is what i've been calling out as farcical over and over again.
 
Other than being white how is the woman murdered in Charlotte related to this at all? I’m assuming it’s racism but the way the right has latched on to her has been really weird
 
When I told my wife that Charlie Kirk had been assassinated, she had no idea who I was talking about.

After Lee Harvey Oswald was killed, I complained to my father about the newspapers using the term assassinated to describe his killing. My father explained to me that the term assassinated isn't related to my or anyone else's personal opinion of the person killed, but to the overall societal impact of the violent killing to society.

This assassination of Charlie Kirk has the potential to have a larger impact on American politics than the attempted assassination of President Trump on the eve of the Repiblican National Convention in 2024.
 
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Unc12003 said:
Other than being white how is the woman murdered in Charlotte related to this at all? I’m assuming it’s racism but the way the right has latched on to her has been really weird
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Especially since she was Ukrainian. The exact people that Loomer and others want to send back to the war zone.
 
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