Charlie Kirk shot and killed at Utah rally.

[sringwal]

Whatever this kid's exact ideology turns out to be (and it may be a little incoherent) it's clear that he was hyper online. If nothing else comes from this maybe this can help us have a much-needed reckoning about how toxic online spaces are and how they incentivize and promote extremist rhetoric and action. Social media and other online spaces are rotting out kids' brains.

Absolutely.

 

[nycfan]

I believe that a bulletproof vest is SOP when bringing in a high profile suspect who might draw revenge killer attention. Even cops who may want to see him in the electric chair don’t want him killed by a sniper in their custody.

 

[Kingpin]

I do wonder how long, if ever, a Kash Patel led FBI would have taken to catch this shooter had he not confessed to his family and they turn him in.

 

[breepf]

This kid was clearly groyper.

A few thoughts on why I think this conclusion is wrong:

1) The kid is imitating the meme in 2018 as a 15-year-old. Kids change a lot between 15 and 22.

2) Pepe memes eventually expanded well outside the alt-right bubble.

3) This particular "gropnik" meme was never specific to the alt-right.

4) The bullet casings and his talk about Kirk's speech.

 

[thebruinbleedstarheelblue]

The shooter told others Kirk was a spreader of hate.

This is true. doesn’t justify his actions, but this is true…hate and lies.

 

[SnoopRob]

I saw on Reddit where this was labeled as the "first shitpost assassination".

I think there is a good bit of truth to the statement.

 

[1moretimeagain]

Has a criminal record been disclosed or was Robinson a law-abiding gun owner prior to this week?

 

[thebruinbleedstarheelblue]

Oh, that's just the VP using the death of a YouTuber to push a political agenda and stir unrest amongst the people they're supposed to lead.

Did they do all of this for actual elected officials who were killed?

 

[nycfan]

 

[CFordUNC]

 

[breepf]

Interesting thread! I follow a lot of commentators on the far right, but I'm unfamiliar with Cochran. But I hope he's right about the shooter's political motivations. That being said, none of this stuff about Groypers makes sense of the shooter's comment's about Kirk's speech.

 

[CFordUNC]

Boy howdy, it's a rough day to be a particular couple of the conservative posters in this community who were so cocksure that the shooter was most assuredly a leftwing transgender lunatic, huh?

 

[Heelsandeers]

The Fuentes phenomenon is so bizarre and uniquely American. Potentially gay, Mexican, White supremacist

Also a huge Kanye West fan who worms his way into Kanye's orbit and convinces him to go full nazi on live tv

 

[4thgenheel]

Interesting thread! I follow a lot of commentators on the far right, but I'm unfamiliar with Cochran. But I hope he's right about the shooter's political motivations. That being said, none of this stuff about Groypers makes sense of the shooter's comment's about Kirk's speech.

do you have a link to reporting on this?

not challenging you, just curious. i think you said in another post that he allegedly made comments to friends and family?

 

[CFordUNC]

Lololololol as predictable as the sun rising in the east and setting in the west.

 

[PTOHeel]

Boy howdy, it's a rough day to be a particular couple of the conservative posters in this community who were so cocksure that the shooter was most assuredly a leftwing transgender lunatic, huh?

Only a 98% chance!

 

[CFordUNC]

LOLOLOL Nancy Mace is such a waste of biology.

 

[Tar1978Heel]

History should never be forgotten…

 

[dukeman92]

Boy howdy, it's a rough day to be a particular couple of the conservative posters in this community who were so cocksure that the shooter was most assuredly a leftwing transgender lunatic, huh?

To be fair... everyday is a bad day to be those guys.

 

[sringwal]

A few thoughts on why I think this conclusion is wrong:

1) The kid is imitating the meme in 2018 as a 15-year-old. Kids change a lot between 15 and 22.

2) Pepe memes eventually expanded well outside the alt-right bubble.

3) This particular "gropnik" meme was never specific to the alt-right.

4) The bullet casings and his talk about Kirk's speech.

If you are looking for which party to blame, than maybe. But when you consider the fact that the internet is spreading hate, it absolutely matters. People susceptible to conspiracy often oscillate between views, and grow angry with those that they feel manipulated them in the past.