Charlie Kirk shot and killed at Utah rally.

wmheel1287 said:
Many of us have changed in a lot of ways but many of us are relatively the same as we have always been but left behind by rightward lurches. Either way, those changes came over the course of decades for most anyone here. This guy is less than 2 years removed from high school. People can go crazy in that amount of time but they don't evolve in that amount of time. He's not liberal and he's not even remotely liberal leaning from any outward appearance. You can give that up now and go accept the reality that one of your own murdered another one of your own quite possibly because y'all won't turn down the temperature on rhetoric...ever.
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Family friends report that T Robinson was “left on everything” in contrast with his family. Combine this with the “Hey fascist! Catch” and other anti fascist symbols and songs, no chance he killed Kirk because he wasn’t right wing enough. No Neo Nazi would say fascist catch my bullet.

Also, he’s 22 so 4 or 5 years from HS. People can change a great deal in that time - particularly if they live in the dark web.
 
Jetson said:
It’s cool that you found this. Now post the one where he ridiculed black women, and said they didn’t have the brain processing power to be taken seriously.
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I'm not a kirk expert. I have spent the last two days trying to learn more about him. Is that what he said? Just like that? Is that the entire context? Why engage someone so compassionately as he did in that clip and make a comment saying black women don't have the brain processing power to be taken seriously? What sense does that make? That would seem to be completely contradictory.
 
Centerpiece said:
I thought the shell casings were etched with some antifa stuff... "Ciao this and that" from the WWII antifas in Italy
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It's apparently all common terminology from a video game. Kid is a potentially a groyper. I just read somewhere that his 4-chan accounts have been revealed but am trying to find confirmation.
 
Callatoroy said:
I'm not a kirk expert. I have spent the last two days trying to learn more about him. Is that what he said? Just like that? Is that the entire context? Why engage someone so compassionately as he did in that clip and make a comment saying black women don't have the brain processing power to be taken seriously? What sense does that make? That would seem to be completely contradictory.
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Much of what he said has been shared out of context. There is plenty of video of him engaging. I would go to the source.
 
Callatoroy said:
I'm not a kirk expert. I have spent the last two days trying to learn more about him. Is that what he said? Just like that? Is that the entire context? Why engage someone so compassionately as he did in that clip and make a comment saying black women don't have the brain processing power to be taken seriously? What sense does that make? That would seem to be completely contradictory.
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ca.news.yahoo.com

Fact Check: Charlie Kirk once said prominent Black women didn't have 'brain processing power' to be taken seriously

He was talking specifically about Michelle Obama, Joy Reid, Sheila Jackson Lee and Ketanji Brown Jackson.
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heel79 said:
Much of what he said has been shared out of context. There is plenty of video of him engaging. I would go to the source.
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How is sharing someone’s own words “out of context”? Is there a different way to interpret someone saying that deaths from gun violence is a necessary sacrifice for us to have a Second Amendment?
 
ZenMode said:
This has been a The Sixth Sense type of plot twist....
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not sure I’d say it was entirely unpredictable…

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Politics Thread 'Charlie Kirk as a martyr'

The Right is making Charlie Kirk into a martyr. On my way to work this morning I saw 3 different businesses with their flags at half mast. Since I have been at work I have had 2 people tell me to my face you guys did this and you picked the wrong man to kill. This is getting scary.
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Callatoroy said:
I would think a racist, if truly a racist would have nothing but abhorrent views as it relates to race. Could you envision david duke speaking with that woman in such a manner.
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This is one of the most disconnected things I've ever seen you post. The rest of us who grew up in the South could name 30 people from our families who were racist to the core but could be kind or generous on occasion with people of another race.
 
ChileG said:
Dinner with my MIL and her ultra-MAGA husband tonight will be interesting.
He will 100% want to talk about this and will 100% believe that Tyler Robinson is a left-wing possible transgendered antifa liberal.
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Plenty of my FB pro MAGA contacts still posting democrat hate associated with Charlie Kirk’s assassination. We’ll see what happens as more info on the shooter becomes widely known.
 
CFordUNC said:
How is sharing someone’s own words “out of context”? Is there a different way to interpret someone saying that deaths from gun violence is a necessary sacrifice for us to have a Second Amendment?
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There is ALWAYS a different way, a favorable way, a “common sense” way to interpret conservative’s racism, bigotries, misogyny, and calls for violence and NEVER a contextual way to interpret a liberal’s position.
 
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Ramrouser said:
Family friends report that T Robinson was “left on everything” in contrast with his family. Combine this with the “Hey fascist! Catch” and other anti fascist symbols and songs, no chance he killed Kirk because he wasn’t right wing enough. No Neo Nazi would say fascist catch my bullet.

Also, he’s 22 so 4 or 5 years from HS. People can change a great deal in that time - particularly if they live in the dark web.
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Those symbols and the song are all from video games apparently. And if indeed he is a Fuentes fan and Fuentes personally knows him then there is very little doubt that he is hard alt right.
 
Ramrouser said:
Family friends report that T Robinson was “left on everything” in contrast with his family. Combine this with the “Hey fascist! Catch” and other anti fascist symbols and songs, no chance he killed Kirk because he wasn’t right wing enough. No Neo Nazi would say fascist catch my bullet.

Also, he’s 22 so 4 or 5 years from HS. People can change a great deal in that time - particularly if they live in the dark web.
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Lololol you’re trying so, so hard and it’s kinda adorable.

“Left on everything in contrast his family” is hilarious. What does that even mean? I’m “left on everything” in contrast with MY family and I’m still much further to the right than like 99.99% of everyone who votes democratic.

Just take the L on this one, man. You swung and missed on what the identity of this shooter would be, like you swing and miss on literally everything else here. Just take the L and hope that the rest of your political party actually is jolted awake by one of their own getting his throat blown off and turns down the rhetoric and temperature.
 
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