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I'm glad we don't but it's a little surprising to me that we don't charge different rates for different uses of electricity. I could definitely see a scenario where people vote to have industrial and commercial uses subsidize residential uses of electricity.

I believe right now most industrial users tend to pay lower rates but that's more because industrial users tend to use electricity in a more steady and predictable manner so it's easier to maximize the efficiency of power plants and other infrastructure. Not because political policy dictates that industrial companies pay less.
 
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I'm glad we don't but it's a little surprising to me that we don't charge different rates for different uses of electricity. I could definitely see a scenario where people vote to have industrial and commercial uses subsidize residential uses of electricity.

I believe right now most industrial users tend to pay lower rates but that's more because industrial users tend to use electricity in a more steady and predictable manner so it's easier to maximize the efficiency of power plants and other infrastructure. Not because political policy dictates that industrial companies pay less.
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I think where we may be headed is rather the opposite, at least in the near term and how we prioritize resources when there is high stress on the grid. The data centers and other industry will come first. That’s not exactly new but I think may be amplified quite a bit.
 
nycfan said:
I think where we may be headed is rather the opposite, at least in the near term and how we prioritize resources when there is high stress on the grid. The data centers and other industry will come first. That’s not exactly new but I think may be amplified quite a bit.
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The AI companies might be able to train their models when electricity demand is low. There is no technical reason why they couldn't train hardcore at night when power demand is low and pull back during the day. The AI companies would prefer not to do that so they can maximize their AI chip investment by running 100% all the time but it is possible.

The inference portion, the ask question get answer in the case of LLM's, would need to be done when people are active but I think the power needs are much less.
 
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AI Actress Tilly Norwood Condemned by SAG-AFTRA: Tilly ‘Is Not an Actor… It Has No Life Experience to Draw From, No Emotion’

SAG-AFTRA issued a statement on the AI 'actress' Tilly Norwood, saying she is not a real performer and can never be.
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SAG-AFTRA has issued a statement condemning Tilly Norwood, the AI “actress” who has become a contentious subject in Hollywood after her creator, Eline Van der Velden, recently claimed that multiple talent agents were interested in signing the AI creation. The acting guild believes “creativity is, and should remain, human-centered” and “is opposed to the replacement of human performers by synthetics.”

“To be clear, ‘Tilly Norwood’ is not an actor, it’s a character generated by a computer program that was trained on the work of countless professional performers — without permission or compensation,” SAG-AFTRA wrote in a statement. “It has no life experience to draw from, no emotion and, from what we’ve seen, audiences aren’t interested in watching computer-generated content untethered from the human experience. It doesn’t solve any ‘problem’ — it creates the problem of using stolen performances to put actors out of work, jeopardizing performer livelihoods and devaluing human artistry.”

The guild added, “Signatory producers should be aware that they may not use synthetic performers without complying with our contractual obligations, which require notice and bargaining whenever a synthetic performer is going to be used.”

Amid growing industry backlash against Tilly Norwood, who was created by the AI production studio Particle6, creator Eline Van der Velden issued a defense by saying Tilly “is not a replacement for a human being, but a creative work – a piece of art.”

“I see AI not as a replacement for people, but as a new tool, a new paintbrush,” Van der Velden added. “Just as animation, puppetry, or CGI opened fresh possibilities without taking away from live acting, AI offers another way to imagine and build stories. I’m an actor myself, and nothing – certainly not an AI character – can take away the craft or joy of human performance.”

Hollywood stars such as Melissa Barrera, Kiersey Clemons, Mara Wilson and more were quick to condemn the AI creation on social media. Whoopi Goldberg opened an episode of “The View” by doubting an AI “actor” like Tilly could ever replace a human performer, adding: “You can always tell them from us. We move differently, our faces move differently, our bodies move differently.”

During a podcast interview with Variety, Emily Blunt was shown a picture of Tilly Norwood and reacted with shock and fear.

“Does it disappoint me? I don’t know how to quite answer it, other than to say how terrifying this is,” Blunt said. “No, are you serious? That’s an AI? Good Lord, we’re screwed. That is really, really scary, Come on, agencies, don’t do that. Please stop. Please stop taking away our human connection.”

Read SAG-AFTRA’s full statement on Tilly Norwood in the post below.
 
sringwal said:
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AI Actress Tilly Norwood Condemned by SAG-AFTRA: Tilly ‘Is Not an Actor… It Has No Life Experience to Draw From, No Emotion’

SAG-AFTRA issued a statement on the AI 'actress' Tilly Norwood, saying she is not a real performer and can never be.
variety.com variety.com

SAG-AFTRA has issued a statement condemning Tilly Norwood, the AI “actress” who has become a contentious subject in Hollywood after her creator, Eline Van der Velden, recently claimed that multiple talent agents were interested in signing the AI creation. The acting guild believes “creativity is, and should remain, human-centered” and “is opposed to the replacement of human performers by synthetics.”

“To be clear, ‘Tilly Norwood’ is not an actor, it’s a character generated by a computer program that was trained on the work of countless professional performers — without permission or compensation,” SAG-AFTRA wrote in a statement. “It has no life experience to draw from, no emotion and, from what we’ve seen, audiences aren’t interested in watching computer-generated content untethered from the human experience. It doesn’t solve any ‘problem’ — it creates the problem of using stolen performances to put actors out of work, jeopardizing performer livelihoods and devaluing human artistry.”

The guild added, “Signatory producers should be aware that they may not use synthetic performers without complying with our contractual obligations, which require notice and bargaining whenever a synthetic performer is going to be used.”

Amid growing industry backlash against Tilly Norwood, who was created by the AI production studio Particle6, creator Eline Van der Velden issued a defense by saying Tilly “is not a replacement for a human being, but a creative work – a piece of art.”

“I see AI not as a replacement for people, but as a new tool, a new paintbrush,” Van der Velden added. “Just as animation, puppetry, or CGI opened fresh possibilities without taking away from live acting, AI offers another way to imagine and build stories. I’m an actor myself, and nothing – certainly not an AI character – can take away the craft or joy of human performance.”

Hollywood stars such as Melissa Barrera, Kiersey Clemons, Mara Wilson and more were quick to condemn the AI creation on social media. Whoopi Goldberg opened an episode of “The View” by doubting an AI “actor” like Tilly could ever replace a human performer, adding: “You can always tell them from us. We move differently, our faces move differently, our bodies move differently.”

During a podcast interview with Variety, Emily Blunt was shown a picture of Tilly Norwood and reacted with shock and fear.

“Does it disappoint me? I don’t know how to quite answer it, other than to say how terrifying this is,” Blunt said. “No, are you serious? That’s an AI? Good Lord, we’re screwed. That is really, really scary, Come on, agencies, don’t do that. Please stop. Please stop taking away our human connection.”

Read SAG-AFTRA’s full statement on Tilly Norwood in the post below.
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"Just as animation, puppetry, or CGI opened fresh possibilities without taking away from live acting, AI offers another way to imagine and build stories." He's not entirely wrong. But not only should paid actors be scared, volunteers or hobbyists should too. It's way easier for a director to "direct" from an office on their own schedule than to get humans involved.

What a world. Decades ago i marveled at how different our current world was compared to my grandparents ... VCRs were mind-blowing to them and they needed us grand-kids to help them operate them. And now here we are in a place i'd never have imagined.
 


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10 states where data centers use the most electricity

More than a quarter of Virginia's electricity consumption is from data centers, according to an EPRI analysis
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Virginia is an outlier with data centers feeding the U.S. government vastly in excess of data center energy usage in other states.

Not sure why Oregon had the huge jump between 2023 and now but they have a serious problem getting new energy generation built there (green, nuclear or other — just a mess with their energy generation approvals for decades).
 
nycfan said:


Background:

qz.com

10 states where data centers use the most electricity

More than a quarter of Virginia's electricity consumption is from data centers, according to an EPRI analysis
qz.com qz.com

Virginia is an outlier with data centers feeding the U.S. government vastly in excess of data center energy usage in other states.

Not sure why Oregon had the huge jump between 2023 and now but they have a serious problem getting new energy generation built there (green, nuclear or other — just a mess with their energy generation approvals for decades).
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It could just be arithmetic.

Suppose AI needs X total power. They put data centers wherever they can open them. The increase in the energy consumption will be directly proportional to X, and the total generated power before 2023. It does not depend on the factors that used to determine consumption levels -- like amount of heavy industry, population, etc.

Outside of Virginia, the states with the higher % gains are smaller states that probably don't use much electricity. I mean, Ohio and Illinois, but they are pretty far down the list. But nobody would have to install much capacity to boost Nebraska's electricity usage by 10%.
 
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