College Basketball 2025-26 Season Thread

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SnoopRob said:
If there were ever a perfect example of lies, damn lies, and statistics, I imagine that athletic department accounting would be near the top of the list.

I wouldn't put much stock in those numbers in any real, practical way.
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And yet, people will.

And program financials might be even more misleading than department financials.
 
Calheel said:
And yet, people will.

And program financials might be even more misleading than department financials.
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It puts us at about #15 among public universities, which is a far cry from the top 10 overall that has been peddled from time to time.

I have my doubts that these numbers are very far off. The bulk of it is going to be NIL and that's not going to be subject to acute financial shenanigans, I wouldn't think. On the other hand, the differences between the schools (outside of the top few) are on the order of a couple of million, which could be subject to accounting issues. I could be wrong.

I suppose payments to fired coaches would also be included and could be a big chunk of some of those expenses.
 
superrific said:
It puts us at about #15 among public universities, which is a far cry from the top 10 overall that has been peddled from time to time.

I have my doubts that these numbers are very far off. The bulk of it is going to be NIL and that's not going to be subject to acute financial shenanigans, I wouldn't think. On the other hand, the differences between the schools (outside of the top few) are on the order of a couple of million, which could be subject to accounting issues. I could be wrong.

I suppose payments to fired coaches would also be included and could be a big chunk of some of those expenses.
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This is program spending under the AD (think salaries & operations), not NIL spending. This data was already largely publicly available and doesn’t include rev share for players (which wasn’t around in the FY these numbers cover).

@Calheel, that’s 1.
 
SnoopRob said:
This is program spending under the AD (think salaries & operations), not NIL spending. This data was already largely publicly available and doesn’t include rev share for players (which wasn’t around in the FY these numbers cover).

@Calheel, that’s 1.
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IU spends $32M on MBB operations not counting NIL? Really? And who is NIL spending "under" if not the AD? I mean, I don't know any of these details, but that # seems unreasonably large.
 
superrific said:
IU spends $32M on MBB operations not counting NIL? Really? And who is NIL spending "under" if not the AD? I mean, I don't know any of these details, but that # seems unreasonably large.
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You have to be very careful when reading these numbers, keeping in mind that different ADs include different things in their numbers. IU, for example, includes buy-outs of coaches. I also don't think the NIL rev share numbers are included in these (it's too early).
 
superrific said:
IU spends $32M on MBB operations not counting NIL? Really? And who is NIL spending "under" if not the AD? I mean, I don't know any of these details, but that # seems unreasonably large.
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Until the current FY, NIL was through collectives or directly from 3rd party sources. Direct, or rev share, NIL did not start until this FY.

These numbers are previous FY numbers…so no NIL.
 
SnoopRob said:
Until the current FY, NIL was through collectives or directly from 3rd party sources. Direct, or rev share, NIL did not start until this FY.

These numbers are previous FY numbers…so no NIL.
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OK, guess I'm wrong. I wouldn't think, even with coach buyouts and facility costs, it would be possible to spend that much on a single basketball program.

I suppose it could depend in part on whether the buyout is recorded as a single charge for one year or spread out over multiple years.
 
superrific said:
OK, guess I'm wrong. I wouldn't think, even with coach buyouts and facility costs, it would be possible to spend that much on a single basketball program.

I suppose it could depend in part on whether the buyout is recorded as a single charge for one year or spread out over multiple years.
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There’s no system-wide standards for accounting for the various costs (except GAAP, I assume), so many universities categorize things in different ways.

IMHO, they’re largely worthless as a comparison tool.
 
superrific said:
I suppose it could depend in part on whether the buyout is recorded as a single charge for one year or spread out over multiple years.
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That is just one of many accounting issues that make these public record projects completely worthless for comparison purposes.
 
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