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EyeballKid said:
I’ve had more than a couple drinks today, so forgive me for bumping this post.

Strange game, but a win in the playoffs against a 1-loss SEC team—on their home turf in one of the most hostile environments in CFB—feels pretty good tonight.

Go Canes!
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You should enjoy it. No harm in that. It was a weird famr that nobody wanted to win but someone had to.
 
1moretimeagain said:
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And this is what makes it all suspect. When a lot of money is on one side, then there is a greater possibility of there being an orchestrated outcome so that the bookies and vested interests do not lose a bundle. Oregon still wins, but the losers are those who bet on the Ducks to cover, so no real harm done. Oregon eased up, which is to be expected. JMU kept playing hard to score but going for a two-point conversion early in the 4th period down 22 points?????? That is a coach with an eye on the spread big time.
I will shrug it off and laugh that it is a reminder to stay away from heavy favorites. But I would imagine there are many rich Ducks alumni who are furious right now. Lanning is not known to be one who lets up on an opponent, but clearly did in the second half last night.
 
IllegalMotion9999 said:
And this is what makes it all suspect. When a lot of money is on one side, then there is a greater possibility of there being an orchestrated outcome so that the bookies and vested interests do not lose a bundle. Oregon still wins, but the losers are those who bet on the Ducks to cover, so no real harm done. Oregon eased up, which is to be expected. JMU kept playing hard to score but going for a two-point conversion early in the 4th period down 22 points?????? That is a coach with an eye on the spread big time.
I will shrug it off and laugh that it is a reminder to stay away from heavy favorites. But I would imagine there are many rich Ducks alumni who are furious right now. Lanning is not known to be one who lets up on an opponent, but clearly did in the second half last night.
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Possibly he wanted to sit his starters in a College Football Play-off game rather than risk injuring them.

Maybe he likes running up the score during regular season games to gain votes/places in polls to better position his team in those play-offs?

Running up the score in a play-off game makes no sense.
 
Zoo_View said:
Possibly he wanted to sit his starters in a College Football Play-off game rather than risk injuring them.

Maybe he likes running up the score during regular season games to gain votes/places in polls to better position his team in those play-offs?

Running up the score in a play-off game makes no sense.
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Running up the score would not have been necessary to keep the cover last night. What you say is true, sure, just a matter of degree. Oregon simply could have avoided letting JMU score 28 second half points, which is just ridiculous and you know it. That just looks bad and just generates doubt when you want your team to be in top form. Oregon did not finish strong, whether backups or starters, and that is not what you want at this time of year. The fluttering Oregon interception was hard to explain.
Now JMU gets to say it covered/kept it close against Oregon on the road so G5 teams should keep those automatic bids. And Mack Brown gets to tell everyone that the loss to JMU last year was against a CFP team this year that covered on the road against one of the best teams in the country. (you know he will).
I am admittedly being a bit too cynical, but with the amount of money involved in sports betting, it is hard not to at least suspect some shady stuff is going on. With the leagues partnering with sports betting sites, it is bound to happen. And we have ample historical evidence of players and referees (not sure about coaches) betting on/orchestrating games.
And will point out that while Vegas loves balanced betting where both sides of a bet are getting equal amounts, there are cases where a lot more money is on one side. That is what deserves a closer look perhaps.

If the Oklahoma punter had just punted the dang ball instead of simply dropping it on the ground, maybe I would feel differently. That play defies explanation. And I have seen too many dropped passes leaving announcers to openly muse that they have no idea how the players could have dropped those passes.
 
IllegalMotion9999 said:
Running up the score would not have been necessary to keep the cover last night. What you say is true, sure, just a matter of degree. Oregon simply could have avoided letting JMU score 28 second half points, which is just ridiculous and you know it. That just looks bad and just generates doubt when you want your team to be in top form. Oregon did not finish strong, whether backups or starters, and that is not what you want at this time of year. The fluttering Oregon interception was hard to explain.
Now JMU gets to say it covered/kept it close against Oregon on the road so G5 teams should keep those automatic bids. And Mack Brown gets to tell everyone that the loss to JMU last year was against a CFP team this year that covered on the road against one of the best teams in the country. (you know he will).
I am admittedly being a bit too cynical, but with the amount of money involved in sports betting, it is hard not to at least suspect some shady stuff is going on. With the leagues partnering with sports betting sites, it is bound to happen. And we have ample historical evidence of players and referees (not sure about coaches) betting on/orchestrating games.
And will point out that while Vegas loves balanced betting where both sides of a bet are getting equal amounts, there are cases where a lot more money is on one side. That is what deserves a closer look perhaps.

If the Oklahoma punter had just punted the dang ball instead of simply dropping it on the ground, maybe I would feel differently. That play defies explanation. And I have seen too many dropped passes leaving announcers to openly muse that they have no idea how the players could have dropped those passes.
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Do you think the Oregon coaches were on the take during a highly visible CFB playoff game?
 
Bigs23 said:
Do you think the Oregon coaches were on the take during a highly visible CFB playoff game?
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Let me do the frustrating thing of answering a question with a question...
Do you think Lanning knew what the point spread was?
Lanning's ultimate goal is to win the game. He did that. I do think Oregon could have easily won by 50 points without risking much in the way of possible injuries, the talent discrepancy was that big. The onside kick attempt by JMU midway fourth period would have made me livid if I were Lanning. Would have put all the starters in and told them to play their asses off.
Do I think it is possible for example that the AD has certain friends/connections/interested parties that wanted JMU to cover and so the AD whispered to Lanning before/during to ease up to a ridiculous level to let JMU get the mother of backdoor covers? Yes, I think something like that is certain within the realm of possibility.
And trust me, I do not want to think this, but have gotten quite cynical based on the money involved and the unseemly tangled web of interests between teams, betting sites, TV networks, and leagues. That the NCAA has mega deals with ESPN/Fox/CBS who have deals with online betting sites should be enough to generate suspicion.
 
IllegalMotion9999 said:
Let me do the frustrating thing of answering a question with a question...
Do you think Lanning knew what the point spread was?
Lanning's ultimate goal is to win the game. He did that. I do think Oregon could have easily won by 50 points without risking much in the way of possible injuries, the talent discrepancy was that big. The onside kick attempt by JMU midway fourth period would have made me livid if I were Lanning. Would have put all the starters in and told them to play their asses off.
Do I think it is possible for example that the AD has certain friends/connections/interested parties that wanted JMU to cover and so the AD whispered to Lanning before/during to ease up to a ridiculous level to let JMU get the mother of backdoor covers? Yes, I think something like that is certain within the realm of possibility.
And trust me, I do not want to think this, but have gotten quite cynical based on the money involved and the unseemly tangled web of interests between teams, betting sites, TV networks, and leagues. That the NCAA has mega deals with ESPN/Fox/CBS who have deals with online betting sites should be enough to generate suspicion.
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Pro sports are too big to fail but if this type of thing is happening it seems very risky and potentially very damaging.

We all know fixing is happening but if orders are coming from the higher ups when does public trust get lost? Or does the general public not really care (see professional wrestling)?
 
Bigs23 said:
Pro sports are too big to fail but if this type of thing is happening it seems very risky and potentially very damaging.

We all know fixing is happening but if orders are coming from the higher ups when does public trust get lost? Or does the general public not really care (see professional wrestling)?
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Don't know. I just have a lot of questions that would love to have answered. Just don't like it when the possibility of shady stuff is completely dismissed.
With college programs relying on donors to fund NIL, maybe some rich Oregon alumni actually faded the Ducks and let it be known they wanted Oregon to ease up?
I should just avoid action on NFL, NBA, NCAA, and stick to sports league that has unquestionable integrity, like the KHL Russian hockey league...
 
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