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SnoopRob said:
Indiana didn't really do anything except get really, really lucky hiring Curt Cignetti and providing sufficient resources.

It's not like anyone predicted that Cignetti would be remotely this successful at a P4 school and it is almost certainly an outlier's outlier situation.

Heck, if you could get Cignetti to be honest, i bet he's likely shocked at the success he's had at Indiana.

I take nothing away from Cignetti, his staff, and his players. They've all worked very, very hard to be where they are and deserve every bit of it.

But I don't think that you can really give Indiana too much credit for anything other than being very, very lucky that their solid hire turned out to be so, so, so much more over the first 2 years.
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Yes. A bunch of more casual UNC fans ask me why we didn't hire him. I tell them we had a coach then. His success at Indiana and our continued struggles are not related.
 
SnoopRob said:
Indiana didn't really do anything except get really, really lucky hiring Curt Cignetti and providing sufficient resources.

It's not like anyone predicted that Cignetti would be remotely this successful at a P4 school and it is almost certainly an outlier's outlier situation.

Heck, if you could get Cignetti to be honest, i bet he's likely shocked at the success he's had at Indiana.

I take nothing away from Cignetti, his staff, and his players. They've all worked very, very hard to be where they are and deserve every bit of it.

But I don't think that you can really give Indiana too much credit for anything other than being very, very lucky that their solid hire turned out to be so, so, so much more over the first 2 years.
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Agreed.

This is the stuff of fantasy for Indiana football. It's completely unprecedented in college football as far as I'm aware. We're not talking about a coach reviving a once-great program. This is Indiana football - one of the worst power conference programs in college football historically.

It'll be interesting to see how things look once all of Cignetti's JMU guys phase out. At this point, I think Indiana has established themselves as one of the "it" programs in the NIL era and, with a billionaire benefactor, may have staying power.
 
Calheel said:
Saban turning a middling Alabama program (post-Bear Bryant) into the dominant force in college football for a decade is a better coaching job
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I suppose if the conversation is multiple year successes but making ALABAMA into a single season national champion favorite is not at all the heavy lift of doing the same at IU.
 
pspsps said:
I suppose if the conversation is multiple year successes but making ALABAMA into a single season national champion favorite is not at all the heavy lift of doing the same at IU.
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I'll give you that if we are talking single seasons. But for a coaching job, Saban is the GOAT.
 
Calheel said:
I'll give you that if we are talking single seasons. But for a coaching job, Saban is the GOAT.
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I would have two different categories. One for quickly turning a bad program around. Cignetti gets that followed by Bill Snyder.

Saban never did this with a better Michigan State program. But he is the GOAT.
 
Calheel said:
Not so sure. He has a Trumpian size ego. Not sure he would have the ability to think he couldn't do something.
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That's why I said you'd have to have a way to get him to be honest.

If he really felt like he'd have had this kind of success in his first 2 years, his initial contract at Indiana would have been insanely incentive laden with relatively minimal guaranteed money.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
I would have two different categories. One for quickly turning a bad program around. Cignetti gets that followed by Bill Snyder.

Saban never did this with a better Michigan State program. But he is the GOAT.
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If Saban had the ability to pay players in the NIL era at MSU, he would have been a monster there.
 
ChapelHillSooner said:
I would have two different categories. One for quickly turning a bad program around. Cignetti gets that followed by Bill Snyder.

Saban never did this with a better Michigan State program. But he is the GOAT.
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I'll give Cignetti the best two-year coaching job. I can't think of anyone that did a better job in two years,
 
JCTarheel82 said:
Agreed.

This is the stuff of fantasy for Indiana football. It's completely unprecedented in college football as far as I'm aware. We're not talking about a coach reviving a once-great program. This is Indiana football - one of the worst power conference programs in college football historically.

It'll be interesting to see how things look once all of Cignetti's JMU guys phase out. At this point, I think Indiana has established themselves as one of the "it" programs in the NIL era and, with a billionaire benefactor, may have staying power.
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I wanted UNC to hire him when Mack was the coach and he was still at JMU.
 
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