College Football Catch-All Thread

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Just seems so... Flippant. Throw money and do whatever you want.

College sports are so broken. I mean you don't see pro players just up and decide to leave mid contract, unless they are traded. Some hold out but there are usually consequences that happen in those cases. Like a Bryce Young isn't going to wake up tomorrow and tell the Panthers "hey I'm going to LA. See ya" But of course pro leagues actually have rules and I don't even know if the NCAA exists anymore.
 
aGDevil2k said:
Just seems so... Flippant. Throw money and do whatever you want.

College sports are so broken. I mean you don't see pro players just up and decide to leave mid contract, unless they are traded. Some hold out but there are usually consequences that happen in those cases. Like a Bryce Young isn't going to wake up tomorrow and tell the Panthers "hey I'm going to LA. See ya" But of course pro leagues actually have rules and I don't even know if the NCAA exists anymore.
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Pro players have a CBA and a commissioner. They are not just relying on individual contracts. There is a governing framework for player movement. That simply doesn't exist in college right now -- especially since the NCAA got out of the player transfer business.
 
ZenMode said:
Forcing a player to stay somewhere they don't want to stay, even if you are legally in the right, sounds like a bad idea.
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But you understand there must be a breaking point to the wild wild west going on?

And I don't think this is meant to keep him in Durham at all.
 
aGDevil2k said:
But you understand there must be a breaking point to the wild wild west going on?
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I disagree. Unlike pro players, college players have 4-5 years to maximize their college experience and showcase their skills to lay the ground work for the rest of their professional lives, if that is their goal. I won't ever fault a player for doing what they believe is best for their situation and don't want the NCAA to get in the way.. That doesn't mean each player will get it right, but I don't want to limit their movement.

Movement of non-athletes isn't restricted.
 
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ZenMode said:
I disagree. Unlike pro players, college players have 4-5 years to maximize their college experience and showcase their skills to lay the ground work for the rest of their professional lives, if that is their goal. I won't ever fault a player for doing what they believe is best for their situation and don't want the NCAA to get in the way.. That doesn't mean each player will get it right, but I don't want to limit their movement.

Movement of non-athletes isn't restricted.
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Then dont sign a multi year contract
 
ZenMode said:
I disagree. Unlike pro players, college players have 4-5 years to maximize their college experience and showcase their skills to lay the ground work for the rest of their professional lives, if that is their goal. I won't ever fault a player for doing what they believe is best for their situation and don't want the NCAA to get in the way.. That doesn't mean each player will get it right, but I don't want to limit their movement.

Movement of non-athletes isn't restricted.
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Movement of non athletes is very much restricted by admission barriers. Also. Non athletes are not being paid 7 figures to attend their institutions.
 
Hate to say it but maybe it's time to get rid of college basketball, football and baseball and just have the pros and a minor league system for those out of high school.
 
CarolinaFever said:
Hate to say it but maybe it's time to get rid of college basketball, football and baseball and just have the pros and a minor league system for those out of high school.
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I’d be all for this—but it ain’t happening. College towns like CH get a huge economic boost from sports. And so do the universities themselves, in a roundabout way. I don’t see a way to successfully divorce big-time college sports from the schools themselves without major economic devastation.
 
EyeballKid said:
I’d be all for this—but it ain’t happening. College towns like CH get a huge economic boost from sports. And so do the universities themselves, in a roundabout way. I don’t see a way to successfully divorce big-time college sports from the schools themselves without major economic devastation.
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Not a divorce, but maybe they could live separately.

What would be lost if UNC basketball was divested into an LLC? It would retain all the intellectual property -- i.e. uniforms, logos, history -- and facilities (lease or ownership, I don't know), but the players wouldn't have to be students.

I submit nothing would be lost. I asked this question before and people said that it was important to them that the players be students, but it seems that's more or less water under the bridge. I mean, players might attend classes and all, but if you transfer three times in four years, you're not really much of a student. And it's been a while since I've heard of a player being academically ineligible.
 
superrific said:
Not a divorce, but maybe they could live separately.

What would be lost if UNC basketball was divested into an LLC? It would retain all the intellectual property -- i.e. uniforms, logos, history -- and facilities (lease or ownership, I don't know), but the players wouldn't have to be students.

I submit nothing would be lost. I asked this question before and people said that it was important to them that the players be students, but it seems that's more or less water under the bridge. I mean, players might attend classes and all, but if you transfer three times in four years, you're not really much of a student. And it's been a while since I've heard of a player being academically ineligible.
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I submit that a lot would be lost.

I’ve got several friends who’ve already stopped attending/watching college games because they’re disgusted by the current state of things. And you yourself seem to suggest that many fans would be turned off by a move to sever the “student athlete” bond—even if it’s perfunctory at present.

It would lessen the emotional bond between students, alumni, and the institution/team.
 
EyeballKid said:
I submit that a lot would be lost.

I’ve got several friends who’ve already stopped attending/watching college games because they’re disgusted by the current state of things. And you yourself seem to suggest that many fans would be turned off by a move to sever the “student athlete” bond—even if it’s perfunctory at present.

It would lessen the emotional bond between students, alumni, and the institution/team.
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I suggest that many fans would have been turned off a few years ago. Would they still be turned off now that the players are pros?

I would say the emotional bond between institution/team and fans has already taken a huge haircut.
 
superrific said:
I suggest that many fans would have been turned off a few years ago. Would they still be turned off now that the players are pros?

I would say the emotional bond between institution/team and fans has already taken a huge haircut.
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That’s just it, though.

We already have minor leagues for baseball and basketball. That we have collegiate versions of those sports—and that attendance at games and allegiance to teams is much greater at the major college level vs. the minor league level— is largely predicated on the emotional bonds of students and alumni.

Further fracturing that bond likely means less attendance and lower enthusiasm for college sports.
 
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