Congress Catch-All

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A couple weeks ago Rand Paul suggested that Elon Musk be voted in for Speaker of the House.

Since Musk is the de facto president, why would he want to be the Speaker ?
 

Musk has effectively executed a hostile takeover of the United States. He will answer to no one and each time his will is challenged, he will threaten to spend millions on opposition to every Republican who does not fold to him. He doesn't have to go through with it because having to combat the endless coffers and social media influence of Musk is nightmare fuel to every House member. Further, with the House so close, most of the time he won't have to move very many members to make it completely untenable. Johnson won't even bring anything forward without Musk's approval.

Since Musk doesn't have to care about voters, he is going to touch every traditional political third rail and laugh about it. It is going to get bumpy quick.

The only real question is what Trump will do about it, if anything. Musk is far smarter than Trump and despite his awkwardness, he is far more charismatic than every other wannabe Trump/MAGA heir. Musk has an aura about him that people worship. When we were debating what smart politician would take over after Trump on the right and be able to pull the same shit...no one saw Musk coming. He's a fucking tool who will go to any length to get what he wants regardless of the consequences. If someone showed credible evidence that Musk messed with voting, I wouldn't even doubt it for a nanosecond.
To me it is an easy solution. Have the press keep asking questions about and writing articles about Musk outsmarting him and being the true king until Trump’s ego can’t stand it any longer.
 
Trump and Musk can fight it out to see who is the real Tribal Chief in a no DQ match. Whoever wins gets to go to Congress, hold up the one finger and say, "Acknowledge me."
 
I'm not sure what you mean. A government shutdown would not prevent Congress from counting electoral votes. Also the VP as President of the Senate typically presides over a joint session of Congress.
I don't think the VP can preside over a joint session unless there is a Speaker. Each new Congress (House) has to elect a Speaker. Can't function without one. Therefore this mess could affect electing a Speaker which would have a domino affect on the counting of electoral votes. Mind you I heard someone talk about this happening on TV and I'm trying to figure it out.

And by the time they get to January, the Republicans might barely have 218. Just the other day there was a Congresswoman who says she will no longer caucus with the GOP. May not affect her vote for speaker, but you can bet she and some other nuts are going to be hard to deal with when it comes time to electing a Speaker. Perhaps long enough to drag it out for several weeks. (yep I'm dreaming)
 
I don't think the VP can preside over a joint session unless there is a Speaker. Each new Congress (House) has to elect a Speaker. Can't function without one. Therefore this mess could affect electing a Speaker which would have a domino affect on the counting of electoral votes. Mind you I heard someone talk about this happening on TV and I'm trying to figure it out.

And by the time they get to January, the Republicans might barely have 218. Just the other day there was a Congresswoman who says she will no longer caucus with the GOP. May not affect her vote for speaker, but you can bet she and some other nuts are going to be hard to deal with when it comes time to electing a Speaker. Perhaps long enough to drag it out for several weeks. (yep I'm dreaming)
I'm not steeped in legislative procedure and I don't have the time or energy to do any real research, but I can't imagine the absence of an elected Speaker could derail the electoral process. The 12th Amendment and 3 USC 15 are pretty clear about the procedure for counting electoral votes and neither requires any real role for the Speaker. Both do say, however, that the President of the Senate shall preside and open the votes.
 
When a producer for Tucker Carlson accused Rep. Dan Crenshaw (R-TX) of “spearheading” the effort to derail the short term spending bill, Crenshaw blew up at him: “Yeah or maybe you’re a fucking lying piece of shit because I’m not even on the YES list for the whip team. Never have been. But hey, whatever gets you pathetic bottom feeders your click bait. Fucking incels.”
Is this an example of a breakdown of super's substantive and procedural decorum or decorum in form?
 
Vote pending in House tonight but currently expected to fail as about 70 Republicans revolt on the debt ceiling.
 
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