CURRENT EVENTS July 31-Sept 27

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CFordUNC said:
Oh, absolutely, I totally expect maximal GOP ratfuckery. That's a given at this point.

I think that an all-out gerrymandering pissing match would look something like this:

Texas eliminates 5 Dem seats. California responds by eliminating 5 Pub seats. Missouri eliminates a Dem. Maryland eliminates a Pub. Florida eliminates 5 Dems. Illinois, Oregon, and New York eliminate 5 Pubs. Ohio eliminates 2 Dems. Indiana and Nebraska eliminate 2 Dems. That would leave a net GOP gain of 4 seats. Maybe California could get really petty and draw out 9 Pub seats, or maybe Washington and New Jersey get involved, too.
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I've also read that there is a real danger for Republicans in some of these states in going to extremes with gerrymandering, as by doing so they will have to create a greater number of marginal GOP districts than before, especially in states with a significant Democratic vote like Texas or Ohio. They will have a larger number of seats that may be "safe" in a typical election, but if there's a blue wave then some of these new districts may not actually be all that safe. The Politico article below explains some of the possible dangers of what Texas Republicans are doing.

Link: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/11/texas-redistricting-00448145
 
Mulberry Heel said:
I've also read that there is a real danger for Republicans in some of these states in going to extremes with gerrymandering, as by doing so they will have to create a greater number of marginal GOP districts than before, especially in states with a significant Democratic vote like Texas or Ohio. They will have a larger number of seats that may be "safe" in a typical election, but if there's a blue wave than some of these new districts may not actually be all that safe. The Politico article below explains some of the possible dangers of what Texas Republicans are doing.

Link: https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/11/texas-redistricting-00448145
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Oh this is fascinating, thank you for sharing
 
Mulberry Heel said:
There's no damn consistency to any of their arguments, their arguments are all done to suit the needs of the moment. How many Trumpers have we seen over the past six months bragging about how Trump got a larger share of minority votes (and especially Latinos) than any Republican presidential candidate in a good while? Plenty. And yet how many of these same Trumpers are now arguing just the opposite - that naturalized Latino citizens always vote Democratic? And if they're really trying to argue that non-naturalized immigrants are voting illegally that is totally false, and has been proven so time and time again. It's a GOP myth, just like the myth that trickle-down economics actually works or that poor people are living like kings and queens on welfare checks and Medicaid.
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Not bragging, laughing because your decades old policy to bring in poor illegal immigrants, get them on the g'ment teat and find a path to citizenship so you can continue to buy their votes through entitlements didn't pan out for you. You guys just assumed it worked for the black community so you would apply the same strategy to the latino voters. Bad news for you is that the black community is starting to wake up and see your shit show for what it is. I sincerely pray your party continues to embrace the continued liberal shift left into full on dim socialism. Really pulling hard for aoc and mamdani and warren to become your party leaders. You guys are to dumb to understand why you lost the last election. Can't wait for nyc to elect mamdani.
 
farce© said:
The goal of the census is to determine how many people are living in an area. It has nothing to do with whether or not they are citizens. Only citizens can vote, but EVERYBODY gets representation. Only citizens get to decide who represents EVERYBODY in a state or district. Everybody there uses roads, water, and other infrastructure that is apportioned according to census data. Census data is much more important than simply voting.
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total population determines congressional seats, not legal citizen population. Don't think there is a question on the census about citizenship. SC struck that down in 2019.
 
Callatoroy said:
No, for being a weak minded, vote buying, policy-less, party that can't win without flooding the country with illegal immigrants. That's why you are hypocrites.
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How does that make me a hypocrite? If I'm weak, devoid of policy and willing to buy votes, why wouldn't i try to flood the country with non-voters? You can't even keep your gratuitous insults straight - it's like you have NewsMax Tourette's.

I similarly accuse the GOP of actively suppressing votes because they'd lose every election if every citizen voted. But I'm not accusing them of hypocrisy, you stupid twit.
 
Callatoroy said:
Seats are added or lost based on population. Flooding sanctuary states with millions of illegals and then counting them in the census adds more congressional seats. How is that not rigging the system? What is the logic in counting them when they can't vote? For purposes of voter representation they might as well be gold fish because like gold fish they can't vote. So no logical reason to count them in the census to determine the number of congressional seats.
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maybe you missed this

per @CFordUNC

Actually, it doesn't, because according to 2022 data from the Pew Research Center, some of the states with the highest percentages of illegal immigrants in their populations are ones that regularly send Republicans to Congress and award their electoral votes to Republican candidates. Nevada, a swing state, tops the list with 5.8 percent of its population being undocumented. But Trump’s home state of Florida comes third, with 5.2 percent. Arizona and Georgia—two other swing states—are all in the top fifteen on the list, with undocumented immigrants making up between 3.2 and 3.5 percent of their populations.
 
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Some facts. Do with them what you will. Red states (based on 2024 Presidential result) gained 5 House seats, while blue states gained 2. Red states lost 4 House seats, while blue states lost 3. That's a net 1 pickup for red states and net 1 loss for blue states as a result of the 2020 census.

The most commonly referred to "sanctuary cities" are NYC, LA, Chicago, SF, and Philadelphia. All of their states lost a seat.
 
Callatoroy said:
Ok. Disprove that article then. Or do you only follow facts that suit your agenda? Which is really the case.
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I have no desire to prove or disprove whatever article you're referring to. I'm sure it's shit. I'm simply stating a fact about the current state of the republican party. If you guys hear something you don't like, if you get information, like say, an unfavorable jobs report, you guys just fire the INDEPENDENT labor chief and make shit up. You've made shit up about the border, Hurricane Helene, California wildfires, etc etc. You're just completely FOS WRT to everything. You hate everything about America and what it was intended to be.
 
Huh? said:
How does that make me a hypocrite? If I'm weak, devoid of policy and willing to buy votes, why wouldn't i try to flood the country with non-voters? You can't even keep your gratuitous insults straight - it's like you have NewsMax Tourette's.

I similarly accuse the GOP of actively suppressing votes because they'd lose every election if every citizen voted. But I'm not accusing them of hypocrisy, you stupid twit.
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You are weak minded, devoid of policy, rely on entitlement vote buying, and did try to flood the country with illegal immigrants. You are a hypocrite because you act as if your party is sitting on some fake moral high ground when you are every bit as scummy you accuse pubs of being.

Only a stupid twit would think asking for an id to vote and wanting minimize the chance of voter fraud = voter suppression. Just further proof that you are weak minded, devoid of policy, and have to rely on buying votes to win an election.
 
nycfan said:




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It's horrible and frightening, but no surprise. Pete Hegseth has a long history as a drunk womanizer and, like so many Trumpers, has all the morals of a stray alley cat. That he should support this guy, attend his "church", and send his own kid to a "Christian" school run by him is actually rather fitting. And this guy is about as much of a "Christian" as Jerry Falwell, Jr., Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, and all of the other False Prophets, scam artists, moral frauds and hypocrites, bigots and sexists, and all of the other worthies of the Religious Right. This guy has likely cheated on his spouse and privately engaged in all sorts of behavior that he publicly preaches and fulminates against. The bottom line is that not only is Trump a terrible excuse for a decent human being, so are most of the people he's appointed to his second administration. It's a clown show of incompetent loons, scam artists, drunks and drug addicts, wannabe fascists, sexual harassers and abusers, you name it. Why should their "spiritual and religious" advisors be any different?
 
dukeman92 said:
I have no desire to prove or disprove whatever article you're referring to. I'm sure it's shit. I'm simply stating a fact about the current state of the republican party. If you guys hear something you don't like, if you get information, like say, an unfavorable jobs report, you guys just fire the INDEPENDENT labor chief and make shit up. You've made shit up about the border, Hurricane Helene, California wildfires, etc etc. You're just completely FOS WRT to everything. You hate everything about America and what it was intended to be.
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or maybe the jobs report was wrong. You have no clue other than you want to believe it was right. What type of grass do you prefer to graze on?
 
Mulberry Heel said:
It's horrible and frightening, but no surprise. Pete Hegseth has a long history as a drunk womanizer and, like so many Trumpers, has all the morals of a stray alley cat. That he should support this guy, attend his "church", and send his own kid to a "Christian" school run by him is actually rather fitting. And this guy is about as much of a "Christian" as Jerry Falwell, Jr., Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, and all of the other False Prophets, scam artists, moral frauds and hypocrites, bigots and sexists, and all of the other worthies of the Religious Right. This guy has likely cheated on his spouse and privately engaged in all sorts of behavior that he publicly preaches and fulminates against. The bottom line is that not only is Trump a terrible excuse for a decent human being, so are most of the people he's appointed to his second administration. It's a clown show of incompetent loons, scam artists, drunks and drug addicts, wannabe fascists, sexual harassers and abusers, you name it. Why should their "spiritual and religious" advisors be any different?
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What direction have the recruitment numbers taken?
 
Callatoroy said:
Seats are added or lost based on population. Flooding sanctuary states with millions of illegals and then counting them in the census adds more congressional seats. How is that not rigging the system? What is the logic in counting them when they can't vote? For purposes of voter representation they might as well be gold fish because like gold fish they can't vote. So no logical reason to count them in the census to determine the number of congressional seats.
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total agree and this is why we shouldn't count children
 
nycfan said:
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Back when Reagan was still in office and was blathering about a missile defense program, there was an article about it in the "New Yorker" magazine. The article started off discussing a WW2 plan to make the guns on US bombers radar and computer controlled, so as to eliminate the always messy and inefficient human element. This grand plan was set aside when the "eggheads" finally convinced the "General LeMays" of the Army Air Corps that given the desired level of accuracy the "General LeMays" predicted could be achieved with radar control, these radar-controlled guns would shoot down ten American bombers for each enemy fighter they shot down. It was just that there were so many bombers clumped together, flying straight and level and so few fighters that were zigzagging and twisting around. and amidst them. And that fundamental problem of there being so many more targets in the air that you don't want to hit and so few targets in the air that you do want to hit has still, to my understanding, not been solved. And another thing that hasn't changed, dim-witted Republican politicians still don't understand the magnitude of the targeting problem.

If we want a missile defense program that includes launch tracking stations in South Korea and multiple lines of Navy ships and ground installations armed with missiles designed to intercept North Korean missiles, we can do that. If we want a missile defense program to intercept a single missile that was accidently launched and the country that launched it is cooperating, we can do that. But the technology that would successfully thwart a full-scale missile attack from either Russia or China is so sophisticated, that developing it would be akin to spending money in WW2 to thwart a horse-mounted charge from the German Equestrian Corps. The level of technology needed to make such a missile defense system work is so advanced as to strongly suggest that parallel developments in offensive technology would have long ago assigned intercontinental ballistic missiles to the dust bin of history.
 
Callatoroy said:
or maybe the jobs report was wrong. You have no clue other than you want to believe it was right. What type of grass do you prefer to graze on?
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The jobs report wasn't wrong. And deep down, you know that. Even if you won't admit it. Just like you know this chaotic administration is ruining this country... but you're too proud and in too deep to ever admit fault. Fortunately your vote is on record, and long after we're dust and this generation is studied in classrooms, your ancestors will marvel at how stupid you were and wonder how you allowed yourself to be duped by a conman with a combover.
 
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