CURRENT EVENTS July 6 - *

[ZenMode]

I'll simplify this for you by repeating the question: "You're better positioned to make a judgment on this than the experts at the World Health Organization?"

And as for the DSM -- Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis

"The DSM–5 articulates explicitly that “gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder.”

You sure you know what you're talking about here?

Like I said, Gender Dysphoria is in the iagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). The fact that they now decide to play politics isn't my fault or my issue.

So, for the sake of getting back on topic, I will call it a psychological condition. Race is not a psychological disorder or condition.

 

[ZenMode]

That's the opposite set-inclusion that needs to be proven. Super was saying A \subset B. You're talking about B \subset A. Those are two entirely different statements.

It really doesn't matter. The comparison of GD to polio or ALS doesn't work.

 

[lawtig02]

Like I said, Gender Dysphoria is in the iagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM). The fact that they now decide to play politics isn't my fault or my issue.

So, for the sake of getting back on topic, I will call it a psychological condition. Race is not a psychological disorder or condition.

So you now know more about this than both the experts at the WHO and the experts at the American Psychiatric Association. I have to say, I'm impressed.

 

[4thgenheel]

 

[ZenMode]

So you now know more about this than both the experts at the WHO and the experts at the American Psychiatric Association. I have to say, I'm impressed.

You're trying to change the subject. Race is not a psychological condition or disorder. You won't find "race" in DSM 5 any more than you'd find polio or ALS in DSM 5. Psychologists aren't trying to diagnose anyone's race condition.

 

[4thgenheel]

i just wanna thank you all for making the last couple of pages of this thread extremely entertaining. especially zen and rouser!

top notch work, ladies and gents.

 

[stankeylegjones]

It really doesn't matter. The comparison of GD to polio or ALS doesn't work.

Where did he compare them, or even try to?

 

[ZenMode]

Where did he compare them, or even try to?

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Politics Post in thread 'CURRENT EVENTS July 6 - *'

Yesterday at 12:37 PM

This is a strange situation. Gender dysphoria is a psychological condition or disorder. Do we track crime data by any other psychological disorder?

Trans is to gender dysphoria like wheelchairs are to polio or ALS. We definitely track statistics on people in wheelchairs and other disabilities. Any other claims you'd like debunked with three seconds thought?

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[dukeman92]

I'll simplify this for you by repeating the question: "You're better positioned to make a judgment on this than the experts at the World Health Organization?"

And as for the DSM -- Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis

"The DSM–5 articulates explicitly that “gender non-conformity is not in itself a mental disorder.”

You sure you know what you're talking about here?

Normally I'd interject here with a friendly reminder not to feed the troll... but this is like watching a cat play with a mouse.

 

[lawtig02]

You're trying to change the subject. Race is not a psychological condition or disorder. You won't find "race" in DSM 5 any more than you'd find polio or ALS in DSM 5. Psychologists aren't trying to diagnose anyone's race condition.

While we're at it, what the fuck is a "psychological condition"? Maybe you could like to such a thing in the DSM.

 

[ZenMode]

While we're at it, what the fuck is a "psychological condition"? Maybe you could like to such a thing in the DSM.

Pick the word you like. When you pick that word, we can continue with the question I asked which whether or not we track crimes by any other psychological (insert word of your choosing).

Do we track crime statistics for people with Aspergers? People who have a fear of spiders? People with extreme anxiety?

 

[lawtig02]

Pick the word you like. When you pick that word, we can continue with the question I asked which whether or not we track crimes by any other psychological (insert word of your choosing).

Do we track crime statistics for people with Aspergers? People who have a fear of spiders? People with extreme anxiety?

"You're trying to change the subject."

-- Someone posting on this thread eight minutes ago

 

[ChileG]

I don't think the only two possible labels are psychological disorder or biological.

You mean like schizophrenia? Bipolar? Then, yes, those are tracked.

 

[nycfan]

This is a strange situation. Gender dysphoria is a psychological condition or disorder. Do we track crime data by any other psychological disorder?

Gay people had to deal with the same claims when gay rights groups began tracking violence against gay men back in the day, when being gay was considered a psychological disorder (I believe that changed in the DSM in 1972 or 1973).

But we do track crime rates against (and by) schizophrenic Americans, and suicide rates of people suffering from Depression, for instance.

 

[bassydude77]

A) - Does he really believe whales can't navigate around a stationary object? I suppose there could be strikes as boats move parts to the construction sites, but those are typically very slow moving barges.

B) - I think there are only 6-8 towers operational at the moment.

The willful ignorance of that man is astounding.

 

[UNCatTech]

Ok, transgenders. Like many liberals, ya'll seem more concerned about language vs. the violence of these political terrorists. Given that transgenders are a miniscule part of the population, do you not find it curious that they are involved in an inordinate amount of political violence the past few years? As you said, they were 20% of this gang.

Your framing of this demonstrates your lack of humanity.

 

[superrific]

Great. You should have no problem finding Polio and ALS in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) if what you're saying is accurate.

1. Don't tell me about DSM. You have no idea what that volume contains or even its purpose.
2. You won't find stomach ulcers in a textbook about heart surgery either. That doesn't mean it's not physical. It just means that doctors specialize.
3. Many of the conditions listed in DSM are not "psychiatric" in origin. Endocrine disorders, for instance, are what you would call "physical" but can have profound psychiatric effects. There's a reason why psychiatrists have to be MDs.

When my wife gets a new patient, the first thing she does is order blood work. Why? Why would she do that for a psychological condition? Because they aren't distinct. My wife will also sometimes order some enzyme metabolism analyses, though that depends on what insurance will pay for. But again, not just prescribing an SSRI, is it?

 

[UNCatTech]

Ok, transgenders. Like many liberals, ya'll seem more concerned about language vs. the violence of these political terrorists. Given that transgenders are a miniscule part of the population, do you not find it curious that they are involved in an inordinate amount of political violence the past few years? As you said, they were 20% of this gang.

Also, the difference is we are not protecting criminals. The right has a monopoly on that just look at the history of trump pardons, all are actual criminals. Some attacked our capital and police. Others are just fraudsters, like trump.

One last thing, why didn't you respond to the belief that we shouldn't allow fellons to run for office, since NO ONE IS ABOVE THE LAW!!!?

 

[nycfan]

Reporter: What does it say that such a big decision could be made inside your government without you knowing?

Trump: I would know. If a decision is made, I will know. I would be the first to know. In fact most likely I’d give the order but I haven’t done that yet.”

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He sounds exhausted and not entirely with it.

 

[UNCatTech]

Ah! So you think it's not biological, but you're better positioned to make a judgment on this than the experts at the World Health Organization?

Transgender no longer recognised as 'disorder' by WHO

The World Health Organization has amended its classification of transgender health issues.

www.bbc.com

Transgender health issues will no longer be classified as mental and behavioural disorders under big changes to the World Health Organization's global manual of diagnoses.

The newly-approved version instead places issues of gender incongruence under a chapter on sexual health.

A World Health Organization expert said it now understands transgender is "not actually a mental health condition".

Damn....

Zen's like the 11th player at the court for a pickup basketball game.