CURRENT EVENTS May 22 - July 5

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Impending pardon and the subsequent mealy mouth justifications from local maga and Good Germans (you know who you are).
 
ZenMode said:
My neighbor is Mormon and returned from his 2 year mission in Brazil a few months ago. Since he grew up in the US, in an English speaking family, he didn't speak a word of Portuguese.

Before he left on his mission, he did a multi-month, emersive course to learn Portuguese.

He didn't move to Brazil and expect Brazil to pay to teach him Portuguese.
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Wow, isn't that special.

And of no relevance to immigration policy.

Considering your neighbor wasn't fleeing a hostile environment and had the money to pay for the trip as well as the language course, this is a really poor comparison.
 
CFordUNC said:
You also very clearly understand that the President of the United States openly musing about human beings being eaten by alligators is grotesque.
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This is the crux. Whether or not anyone is actually eaten by alligators, the promotion and celebration of that possibility is beneath even the low bar that we hold Trump to (and I think it is unquestionably and by some margin the lowest bar set for any president). The cruelty is the point. It's a feature, not a bug. It's strongman stuff. It's got nothing to do with law enforcement. And anyone who tolerates it or chuckles about it or - god forbid - defends it, is contributing to the cause of cruelty and strongman politics. Pick your side.
 
ZenMode said:
A valid concern but separate issue from your claim that immigrants are going to be "fed" to alligators.

Look, I enjoy a little sarcasm/hyperbole as much as the next guy, but come on.... no detainees will be fed to alligators and if it happens, someone needs to be arrested, charged and put in to prison for a very long time.
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Right, and just look at trumps track record when people claim that what he said is hypocritical and will not happen.

I guarantee that if they do this someone is going to die because of it. Now will it be reported, maybe not. If reported will the administration spin it? YES.

if spun will the maga types like Zen buy in? 🤔
 
HeelInTheOzarks said:
So these children who didn’t make the choice to move to the USA with their parents should take it upon themselves to just figure it out outside of school?
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I'm all for states/school districts addressing the issue as they see fit. My wife works in a very small district, yet her teammate (one of only 2 first grade teachers) is bilingual, so Spanish speaking kids end up in her class.

If states/districts choose not to, then immersion is also very effective.
 
CFordUNC said:
I hope to God I am never in such an awful place in my life where I get an erection from parcing semantics on a message board about human beings being eaten by alligators. Please, God, somebody put a piece of lead right between my eyes before I ever stoop to that level.
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Amen
 
CFordUNC said:
You should consider taking a break from the board for a while. This is really, really poor, even by your standards. There are undoubtedly going to be plenty of people who are incarcerated in that prison camp who are perfectly legal citizens, or who did nothing wrong. The fact that you think it’s amusing or that you would play semantics about whose fault it is that they are eaten by gators, says a whole lot about you as a human being, and it’s really, really bad.
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He's just a fucking troll.
 
ZenMode said:
I'm all for states/school districts addressing the issue as they see fit. My wife works in a very small district, yet her teammate (one of only 2 first grade teachers) is bilingual, so Spanish speaking kids end up in her class.

If states/districts choose not to, then immersion is also very effective.
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You are an for them addressing it, but the conversation started with your attempt to justify taking away the funding for it. Do I have that correct?
 
wmheel1287 said:
You are an for them addressing it, but the conversation started with your attempt to justify taking away the funding for it. Do I have that correct?
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Take away federal funding, yes.

I'd be fine with states saying "learn by doing" the way may people do when moved to a place where they don't speak the language.

Children learn new languages quickly.
 
ZenMode said:
My neighbor is Mormon and returned from his 2 year mission in Brazil a few months ago. Since he grew up in the US, in an English speaking family, he didn't speak a word of Portuguese.

Before he left on his mission, he did a multi-month, emersive course to learn Portuguese.

He didn't move to Brazil and expect Brazil to pay to teach him Portuguese.
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He was going on a mission, dipshit. He learned the language because it was vital to what he was doing -- which, incidentally, isn't really anything Brazil wants him to be doing but whatever, evangelizing ain't illegal. Anyway, the immersive course was surely paid for by the Mormon Church, probably structured by the Church, with everything proceeding in an organized manner.
 
I found more cuts that I'm in favor of the localities dealing with. Firefighters can also learn by doing. People learn really fast in the heat if the moment.




In Fiscal Year 2024, the federal government allocated substantial funding to support local fire departments across the United States through several key programs administered by the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA):


🔥 Major Federal Grant Programs for Fire Departments​


  1. Assistance to Firefighters Grant (AFG) Program
    Allocated $291.6 million in FY 2024, this program provides funding for essential equipment, training, and facility upgrades to enhance the safety and effectiveness of fire departments.
  2. Fire Prevention and Safety (FP&S) Grants
    Approximately $32.4 million was designated for FP&S grants, focusing on fire prevention initiatives and research to improve firefighter safety.
  3. Staffing for Adequate Fire and Emergency Response (SAFER) Grants
    The SAFER program received $324 million in FY 2024 to assist fire departments in hiring and retaining frontline firefighters, ensuring adequate staffing levels for emergency response.

Combined, these programs provided over $648 million in federal funding to local fire departments in FY 2024. These grants are crucial for departments, especially in rural and underserved areas, to maintain and improve their operational capabilities.


Additionally, the American Rescue Plan Act of 2021 allocated $350 billion in direct federal assistance to state and local governments, portions of which could be used to support fire and emergency medical services. iaff.org+1en.wikipedia.org+1


These funding streams underscore the federal government's commitment to bolstering the resources and readiness of local fire departments nationwide.
 
wmheel1287 said:
And how do you propose that localities fund such things?
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They can fund it however they'd like, if they choose to have such a program. Like I said, my wife's school hires some bilingual teachers. Immersion in a language is also a great way to learn because it forces kids to learn.

My wife's district has a policy that if a parent puts on the registration documentation that "a different language is spoken at home", that student is automatically put into a class with a teacher who is bilingual. A kindergarten teacher, who's son is also in kindergarten and speaks exclusively Spanish, intentionally did NOT list that Spanish is spoken at home because she wanted her son immersed in an English class.
wmheel1287 said:
Are you in favor of localities instituting income taxes? Raising property taxes? Money doesn't invent itself.
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That's up to the state/city/districts to figure out.
 
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