CURRENT EVENTS May 22 - July 5

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ZenMode said:
My outrage ended in the late '90s or early 2000s when it became clear that neither Republicans or Democrats cared about being fiscally responsible.

The last president to actually show concern about fiscal responsibility was Bill Clinton.
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Did it end? Or did it just shift to wanting marginalized groups to be more marginalized?
 
dukeman92 said:
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This must have been what it was like watching the fall of the Roman empire.
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He also said in this speech that he hates Democrats - "I really do" - and that he believes that Democrats hate America because they don't support him and his big, beautiful bill. If you're a Democrat I'm sure that will really make you feel patriotic and safe and confident about your future, and on the Fourth of July, no less.
 
dukeman92 said:
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This must have been what it was like watching the fall of the Roman empire.
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While he's at it, why not throw a female mud wrestling event in there where the Rose Garden used to be?

But seriously, are holding stupid ass events like this at the White House what gave him the idea to destroy the Rose Garden?
 
finesse said:
You missed it by that much. Obama had to pay for Bush's ME misadventure and Biden had to pay for Trump's dumbassery. Paying bills,even if other people in the household incurred them, is fiscal responsibility.
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Keep making those excuses....
 
finesse said:
They have the receipts. guy. Keep being a dumbass. You're just about as dependable as the sunrise.
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Yah? I have the receipt for every unneeded COVID check I received during the Biden administration.

I can also show you a consistent upward debt trend for every president since the '80s.

I can also show you Biden's fiscal responsibility in his attempt to forgive a trillion plus dollars in student loan debt.

Sell crazy someplace else. We are all stocked up here.
 
ZenMode said:
Yah? I have the receipt for every unneeded COVID check I received during the Biden administration.
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www.pandemicoversight.gov

Update: Three rounds of stimulus checks. See how many went out and for how much.

While you may have heard them referred to as stimulus checks, the Economic Impact Payments were, for the most part, direct deposited into bank accounts or sent out as bank cards. More than 476 million payments totaling $814 billion in financial relief went to households impacted by the pandemic...
www.pandemicoversight.gov www.pandemicoversight.gov

Round 1, March 2020: $1,200 per income tax filer, $500 per child (CARES Act)

Round 2, December 2020: $600 per income tax filer, $600 per child (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021)

Round 3, March 2021: $1,400 per income tax filer, $1,400 per child (American Rescue Plan Act)
 
sringwal said:
www.pandemicoversight.gov

Update: Three rounds of stimulus checks. See how many went out and for how much.

While you may have heard them referred to as stimulus checks, the Economic Impact Payments were, for the most part, direct deposited into bank accounts or sent out as bank cards. More than 476 million payments totaling $814 billion in financial relief went to households impacted by the pandemic...
www.pandemicoversight.gov www.pandemicoversight.gov

Round 1, March 2020: $1,200 per income tax filer, $500 per child (CARES Act)

Round 2, December 2020: $600 per income tax filer, $600 per child (Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2021)

Round 3, March 2021: $1,400 per income tax filer, $1,400 per child (American Rescue Plan Act)
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Right. Like I said, I've given up on both parties as relates to fiscal responsibility.
 
CFordUNC said:
Yet, incidentally, 90%+ of your posts carry the water of one of them! Funny, that.
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My view on, for example, trans women in female sports has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. Most of what I comment on are topics that are brought up by liberal posters and I have a view that opposes the liberal view.
 
ZenMode said:
My view on, for example, trans women in female sports has nothing to do with Republicans or Democrats. Most of what I comment on are topics that are brought up by liberal posters and I have a view that opposes the liberal view.
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So, if most of what you post is an opposition of the liberal viewpoint, and if you are primarily animated by the issue of transgender people- as the seemingly majority of your posts are about such- does it not stand to reason that you are carrying the water of the Republican Party?
 
CFordUNC said:
So, if most of what you post is an opposition of the liberal viewpoint, and if you are primarily animated by the issue of transgender people- as the seemingly majority of your posts are about such- does it not stand to reason that you are carrying the water of the Republican Party?
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I find more usefulness in disagreement and debate than I do in being yet another echo in the echo chamber.

There are very few ONLY liberal or ONLY conservative topics. For example, I don't say much about homosexual topics because I almost entirely agree with the consensus view here, though I do find their parades to be ridiculous .....I was pro same-sex marriage before Obama was.
 
ZenMode said:
I find more usefulness in disagreement and debate than I do in being yet another echo in the echo chamber.

There are very few ONLY liberal or ONLY conservative topics. For example, I don't say much about homosexual topics because I almost entirely agree with the consensus view here, though I do find their parades to be ridiculous .....I was pro same-sex marriage before Obama was.
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Got it. I sincerely believe that you believe that (and I don’t mean that snarky or sarcastic). But I also believe that were you on a board full of deeply entrenched right wingers, and if you made the exact same posts and the exact same arguments as you do here, they’d think you were a card-carrying dyed-in-the-wool Republican. In other words, aside from a few half-hearted disagreements with Donald Trump’s personality on occasion, little or none of what you post here would make you seem like you disagree with *both* parties as you claim. Your disagreement seems to be 90%+ with one party and one party alone. Which, of course, is totally fine. You absolutely do not have to like Democrats or liberals or anything to be a valued, welcome, important member of this community. It’s just amusing that you think that your posts come across as equally disapproving of both parties. That’s all I’m saying.

I’ve got plenty of disagreements with Democrats/liberals, and far more with Republicans/conservatives, but I don’t think of myself as some enlightened above the fray contrarian. I think of myself as a former conservative turned staunch Democratic voter at present who, even if I don’t consider myself a classical Democrat or liberal, finds it far more useful in this current moment for me to have picked a side instead of straddling the fence- or pretending to do so.
 
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