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Got it. I sincerely believe that you believe that (and I don’t mean that snarky or sarcastic). But I also believe that were you on a board full of deeply entrenched right wingers, and if you made the exact same posts and the exact same arguments as you do here, they’d think you were a card-carrying dyed-in-the-wool Republican. In other words, aside from a few half-hearted disagreements with Donald Trump’s personality on occasion, little or none of what you post here would make you seem like you disagree with *both* parties as you claim. Your disagreement seems to be 90%+ with one party and one party alone. Which, of course, is totally fine. You absolutely do not have to like Democrats or liberals or anything to be a valued, welcome, important member of this community. It’s just amusing that you think that your posts come across as equally disapproving of both parties. That’s all I’m saying.

I’ve got plenty of disagreements with Democrats/liberals, and far more with Republicans/conservatives, but I don’t think of myself as some enlightened above the fray contrarian. I think of myself as a former conservative turned staunch Democratic voter at present who, even if I don’t consider myself a classical Democrat or liberal, finds it far more useful in this current moment for me to have picked a side instead of straddling the fence- or pretending to do so.
Zen could be outspokenly right-wing and if he did so logically and factually that would be acceptable.

Instead, he ‘Bo-sides the shit out of topics and professes expertise he doesn’t have.
 
Have you looked at Clinton's fiscal responsibility over his two terms following Poppy Bush ?

Have you looked at Obama's fiscal responsibility over his two terms following GWB ?

Have you looked at Biden's fiscal responsibility following Trump 1.0 ?

Don't give up on "both parties" Give up on one party...
He’s a Republican. He firmly believes the GOP is the more fiscally responsible of the two major parties.
 
There are a lot of white and straight folks that this bill is going to hurt - poor, rural folks are going to feel the brunt of this horrible fucking thing. Ironic, since many of them voted for this piece of shit.
And they’ll have outlets like Fox and Breitbart convincing them it’s the Democrats’ fault every step of the way.
 
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