DOGE Catch-All | Musk is an Insider Threat with sysadmin access to everything

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mynameisbond said:
Serious question: who pays for this "DOGE"? It's not hard to predict who will benefit, and it's not the American taxpayer, IMHO.
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Musk has said it will be zero compensation. No word on how to pay for incidentals like travel.

That's not really what you want. The only people that can afford to take that zero compensation job for months or years are people that are already independently wealthy or maybe people looking for something at the end of the project. I think all those rich folks hoping to work on this would hope for a leadership position shepherding a bunch of workers. But the workers aren't going to work for free so there's going to be a lot of chiefs and not many Indians.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Musk has said it will be zero compensation. No word on how to pay for incidentals like travel.

That's not really what you want. The only people that can afford to take that zero compensation job for months or years are people that are already independently wealthy or maybe people looking for something at the end of the project. I think all those rich folks hoping to work on this would hope for a leadership position shepherding a bunch of workers. But the workers aren't going to work for free so there's going to be a lot of chiefs and not many Indians.
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He's getting benefit from it, clearly. It's not a philanthropic endeavor.
Private contracts to replace services performed by agencies, perhaps? That's already happened with prisons.
Less regulation on his businesses and ventures, maybe?
It's not about reducing waste. The GAO does that. It's about generating capital without oversight.
 
Returning to a society that values generating capital without oversight is, I believe, the "fuck around and find out" part of the equation that will most haunt MAGA folks this go round.
 
nycfan said:
The reality of DOGE is already disintegrating — Ramaswamy has met with the governor of Ohio about getting JD Vance’s open senate seat but openly mulling a run for governor of Ohio next cycle. Meanwhile, they will engage tech bros on no pay temporary contracts to go observe various departments for up to 130 days (the time limit for the statutory exception for such hires) in which time it is difficult to see them doing anything meaningful.

But the illusion of DOGE carries on and got Elon Musk office space in the White House/executive complex.
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DeWine is not going to appoint Ramaswamy. I hear it is a done deal that Lt Gov John Husted will get the appointment. I understand DeWine and Husted were at Mar-a-Lago together recently, although Trump requested Ramaswamy seek the appointment.
 

Ramaswamy’s future at DOGE is in doubt as he prepares to announce bid for Ohio governor​

He’s set to work with Elon Musk at the unofficial Department of Government Efficiency.

“Vivek Ramaswamy could withdraw from working with the Department of Government Efficiency ahead of his bid for Ohio governor, which he intends to formally announce by the last week in January, according to a person close to the matter. …”

 
gtyellowjacket said:
Musk has said it will be zero compensation. No word on how to pay for incidentals like travel.

That's not really what you want. The only people that can afford to take that zero compensation job for months or years are people that are already independently wealthy or maybe people looking for something at the end of the project. I think all those rich folks hoping to work on this would hope for a leadership position shepherding a bunch of workers. But the workers aren't going to work for free so there's going to be a lot of chiefs and not many Indians.
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If I remember correctly, George Washington worked for no salary as Commander-in-Chief of the Continental Army during the American Revolution. He merely asked for “expenses.” He made a fortune.
 
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