DOGE Catch-All | RIP DOGE

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TangledUpInBlue06 said:
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Breaking that spending increase down a little further, most of the increase, almost all the increase, is more social security and Medicare spending. That's to be expected as we get more old people. There is also a nontrivial increase in interest payments on the debt.

The discretionary spending has gone down a bit as DOGE did cut a fair amount of programs and government got shutdown so I'm sure contracts got pushed, but when you add in the new defense outlays, total non entitlement spending has gone up slightly. So I'm not sure it's really fair to call DOGE a failure as much as they spent those DOGE savings on defense increases (and immigration enforcement) that I would argue we don't really need.
 
TangledUpInBlue06 said:
That's reallocation, not savings, right?
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Yeah but I'm not sure DOGE was the one calling for that reallocation. Their mandate was savings by eliminating unnecessary government waste. They knew they were going to cut too deep in some areas and those were the areas that we're going to be called out in Twitter posts but overall, I think they got some good results. And those results were wasted because savings were spent on different government waste.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Yeah but I'm not sure DOGE was the one calling for that reallocation. Their mandate was savings by eliminating unnecessary government waste. They knew they were going to cut too deep in some areas and those were the areas that we're going to be called out in Twitter posts but overall, I think they got some good results. And those results were wasted because savings were spent on different government waste.
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Any time you do that much random stuff, you're likely to get some good results. I'm not so sure they did but, if they id, I'm pretty damned sure what they did is not repeatable or worth the damage and disruption it caused in other ways. Think of it as ROI. This experiment sucked.
 
gtyellowjacket said:
Yeah but I'm not sure DOGE was the one calling for that reallocation. Their mandate was savings by eliminating unnecessary government waste. They knew they were going to cut too deep in some areas and those were the areas that we're going to be called out in Twitter posts but overall, I think they got some good results. And those results were wasted because savings were spent on different government waste.
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I don't think we've even begun to see the cost of cuts to things like USAID.
 
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