DOGE v Social Security Fraud*

DiehardHeelFan said:
Not familiar with JCL.
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1970/80 The IBM 360s in Phillios and elsewhere

Job Control Language (JCL) is a scripting language used on IBM mainframe operating systems to instruct the system on how to run a batch job or start a subsystem.[1] The purpose of JCL is to say which programs to run, using which files or devices[2] for input or output, and at times to also indicate under what conditions to skip a step. Parameters in the JCL can also provide accounting information for tracking the resources used by a job as well as which machine the job should run on.
 
grimes70 said:
1970/80 The IBM 360s in Phillios and elsewhere

Job Control Language (JCL) is a scripting language used on IBM mainframe operating systems to instruct the system on how to run a batch job or start a subsystem.[1] The purpose of JCL is to say which programs to run, using which files or devices[2] for input or output, and at times to also indicate under what conditions to skip a step. Parameters in the JCL can also provide accounting information for tracking the resources used by a job as well as which machine the job should run on.
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1970/1980 explains it 😀
 
As far as I've seen, Elon never said there was fraud in SS or that tens of millions of people were receiving SS payments that shouldn't be. He simply pointed out that really old people were listed in the SS database, right?
 
ZenMode said:
As far as I've seen, Elon never said there was fraud in SS or that tens of millions of people were receiving SS payments that shouldn't be. He simply pointed out that really old people were listed in the SS database, right?
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Over the past few days, President Donald Trump and billionaire adviser Elon Musk have said on social media and in press briefings that people who are 100, 200 and even 300 years old are improperly getting benefits — a “HUGE problem,” Musk wrote, as his Department of Government Efficiency digs into federal agencies to root out waste, fraud and abuse.

You're right. It was probably all a non sequitur that people misunderstood and he was too embarrassed to correct.
 
ZenMode said:
As far as I've seen, Elon never said there was fraud in SS or that tens of millions of people were receiving SS payments that shouldn't be. He simply pointed out that really old people were listed in the SS database, right?
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ZenMode said:
As far as I've seen, Elon never said there was fraud in SS or that tens of millions of people were receiving SS payments that shouldn't be. He simply pointed out that really old people were listed in the SS database, right?
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Again, if these people have such mush for brains as you admit elsewhere, why on earth would you give Elon the benefit of the doubt? He's running his exact twitter playbook on the federal government. Twitter is worth maybe 10-15% of what he paid for it (note: private valuations are higher but they are almost always optimistic). This is what you want? Why give that man any benefit of the doubt?
 
nycfan said:
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This actually upsets me. If they are going to destroy so many lives then touch social security and Medicare.

These Boomers who are living on social security need to feel the pain too. Tired of seeing people on social security and disability constantly saying that the government is stealing their money.
 
superrific said:
Again, if these people have such mush for brains as you admit elsewhere, why on earth would you give Elon the benefit of the doubt? He's running his exact twitter playbook on the federal government. Twitter is worth maybe 10-15% of what he paid for it (note: private valuations are higher but they are almost always optimistic). This is what you want? Why give that man any benefit of the doubt?
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He either said something or he didn't. Even ABC, as of 30 min ago, says he's only "implying".

President Donald Trump and Elon Musk, in their hunt for "fraud, waste and abuse" in the federal government, are falsely implying millions of dead Americans are receiving Social Security benefits, experts told ABC News.

abcnews.go.com

Musk misreads Social Security data, millions of dead people not getting benefits, experts say

President Donald Trump and Elon Musk are falsely implying that millions of dead Americans are receiving Social Security benefits, experts told ABC News.
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Also, saying something by implication is still saying it.

For instance, suppose you're walking through a field when you're confronted by a farmer holding a shotgun. The farmer points to a gate and says, "there's the exit. Get off my land or else." According to your logic, he didn't say that he was going to shoot you so no big deal. Maybe he just means he is going to notify the authorities of your trespass. Am I right?
 
When a henchman for the local protection racket walks into your store and says, “nice place you’ve got here, it would be a shame if something happened to it” he’s just a concerned neighbor making conversation.
 
ZenMode said:
Right... he doesn't say anyone is getting benefits. He's just saying the database is showing inaccurate info.
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Jesus Christ, shut the fuck up with your bullshit. You know god damned well what Musk was implying, and you know god damned well how little effort it takes to get millions of Trump-voting simpletons to believe that there are thousands (or millions!) of people receiving benefits they weren’t supposed to.

He didn’t even fucking clarify what he meant by the graphic. He just posted it so the brain-dead Elon fanboy conspiracists can get worked into a lather.

You are a disingenuous piece of shit. At least people like Callatoroy and Ramrouser don’t portray themselves as anything other than the dirtbags that they are. You attempt to act like you are this above the fray bosider who is “just askin’ questions, man” to throw us off your scent, but you are no better than any of the countless bigoted, low-IQ, mouth-breathers that pass for Trump idolaters these days.
 
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