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So Trump was best friends with the most notorious pedophile of all time, spent tons of documented time at the homes and parties of said pedophile, sent sexually-implicit birthday cards back and forth with said pedophile, we now have an email trail where said pedophile discusses in writing Trump's being "the dog who hasn't yet barked" and having spent hours with a known Epstein victim at Epstein's house, is threatening/begging/pleading members of his own party to block the release of the files that are supposedly a hoax and supposedly would exonerate him......and the aroused pedo-ram thinks that the cult leader whom he worships and for whom he was surrendered every ounce of pride and decency to defend, did not participate in- or at the very least have explicit knowledge of- the rape and trafficking of minors. Do I have that right?
 
Ramrouser said:
Likely Trump doesn't want embarrassing facts to come out about his relationship with Epstein. The whole Palm Beach crowd has nothing to be proud about even if they were innocent. There is zero evidence that Trump was on the Epstein client list so he's not a pedo as y'all constantly proclaim. I would like those on the client list to be identified. Otherwise, releasing all the files will tarnish many innocent folks unnecessarily (not just Trump).
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“Zero evidence that he was in the client list” completely disregards mountains of circumstantial evidence that makes Trumps inclusion likely. I’m sure you thought that OJ was innocent because of a similar lack of direct evidence.
 
C-Money said:
Trump has always thought he was untouchable because he was rich. He admitted it when he said he just grabs women by the pussy and they let him because he's rich.
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He didn't actually say that the women" let him" grab them by the pussy. My guess is he surprised them and grabbed their pussy before they could object. but kudos to the married woman who would not let him fuck her.

Trump: "I moved on her actually. You know she was down on Palm Beach. I moved on her, and I failed. I'll admit it. I did try and fuck her, she was married."

Trump: "Yeah that's her with the gold. I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful... I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything."

( Billy ) Bush: "Whatever you want."

Trump: "Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything."

50% of the American voters elected this repulsive vile what passes for a human being last year.
Let that sink in...
 
Ramrouser said:
How many times do I have to type that if there is hard evidence of Trump having sex with underage girls (18) then he should step down or be removed from office. I see no evidence of this only the wishcasting on this board. So, I haven't changed my stance on this over the years. You automatically assume Trump's a pedo so you label me a pedo protector when that just isn't the case.
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I never mentioned pedophilia, or made any mention of underage girls in my post above. I was carefully precise with my language in that post and meant exactly what I said.

Maybe you could reread what I wrote above and think about it some more.
 
DantesHair said:
“Zero evidence that he was in the client list” completely disregards mountains of circumstantial evidence that makes Trumps inclusion likely. I’m sure you thought that OJ was innocent because of a similar lack of direct evidence.
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If the glove doesn't fit, you must acquit
If a child rape video doesn't exist, you must desist
 
CFordUNC said:
So Trump was best friends with the most notorious pedophile of all time, spent tons of documented time at the homes and parties of said pedophile, sent sexually-implicit birthday cards back and forth with said pedophile, we now have an email trail where said pedophile discusses in writing Trump's being "the dog who hasn't yet barked" and having spent hours with a known Epstein victim at Epstein's house, is threatening/begging/pleading members of his own party to block the release of the files that are supposedly a hoax and supposedly would exonerate him......and the aroused pedo-ram thinks that the cult leader whom he worships and for whom he was surrendered every ounce of pride and decency to defend, did not participate in- or at the very least have explicit knowledge of- the rape and trafficking of minors. Do I have that right?
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The "known Epstein victim" is Virginia Giuffre who consistently and repeatedly denied that she ever saw Trump engage in any inappropriate behavior. That's why the Dems conveniently redacted her name from the email. What did this witness have to gain by lying for Trump?
 
Ramrouser said:
The "known Epstein victim" is Virginia Giuffre who consistently and repeatedly denied that she ever saw Trump engage in any inappropriate behavior. That's why the Dems conveniently redacted her name from the email. What did this witness have to gain by lying for Trump?
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Ramrouser 54 minutes ago: "Otherwise, releasing all the files will tarnish many innocent folks unnecessarily (not just Trump)."

Ramrouser now: "That's why the Dems conveniently redacted her name from the email."
 
lawtig02 said:
Ramrouser 54 minutes ago: "Otherwise, releasing all the files will tarnish many innocent folks unnecessarily (not just Trump)."

Ramrouser now: "That's why the Dems conveniently redacted her name from the email."
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So we have you on the record as your contention being that Jeffrey Epstein writing emails in 2011 about Donald Trump being “the dog that hasn’t barked yet”, about Donald Trump spending hours at Epstein‘s house alone with an underage sex trafficking victim, about having photos of Donald Trump with scantily clad underage sex trafficking victims in Epstein’s kitchen, etc. are just purely coincidental, nothing to see here? Your contention is that Donald Trump is begging and pleading and crying openly for Republican members of Congress to block the release of the files that he says are a total hoax and completely exonerate him, is purely coincidental, nothing to see here? Your contention is that Donald Trump, out of the goodness of his heart- he of his renowned spirit of generosity and thoughtfulness – simply opposes the release of the Epstein files because he is afraid that it will tarnish the reputation of *other* people? Do I have all of that correct?
 
theonion.com

Trump Denies Writing 36-Volume Comic Titled ‘Don And Jeff: Time Pedophiles’

WASHINGTON—Dismissing the swashbuckling sci-fi romp as “a total hoax” amid growing scrutiny over his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, President Donald Trump made remarks Tuesday denying that he had written a 36-volume comic titled Don And Jeff: Time Pedophiles. Obtained last month by the House...
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"Obtained last month by the House committee investigating the late financier and child sex trafficker, the Time Pedophiles saga depicts Trump and Epstein journeying through various historical eras aboard Epstein’s Chronolita Express time machine, taking on Edo-period samurai, ancient Roman legionaries, and Wild West gunslingers in their never-ending quest for underage sexual partners."
 
lawtig02 said:
Ramrouser 54 minutes ago: "Otherwise, releasing all the files will tarnish many innocent folks unnecessarily (not just Trump)."

Ramrouser now: "That's why the Dems conveniently redacted her name from the email."
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It's not inconsistent, it's just his concern is for those poor Epstein affiliates rather than the Epstein victims.
 
Ramrouser said:
The "known Epstein victim" is Virginia Giuffre who consistently and repeatedly denied that she ever saw Trump engage in any inappropriate behavior. That's why the Dems conveniently redacted her name from the email. What did this witness have to gain by lying for Trump?
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Leaving aside that your post only addresses like 1 of 8 things Cford raised, what's your explanation of why Trump and the DOJ did a 180 on releasing the files?
 
Ramrouser said:
The "known Epstein victim" is Virginia Giuffre who consistently and repeatedly denied that she ever saw Trump engage in any inappropriate behavior. That's why the Dems conveniently redacted her name from the email. What did this witness have to gain by lying for Trump?
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It is?
 
evrheel said:
It is?
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It probably is, but that just begs the question why Ramrouser credits statements made in an intimidating legal environment by a young rape and sexual trafficking survivor who was so traumatized she tragically took her own life earlier this year, over an email exchange between the two primary perpetrators of her rape and sexual trafficking, who never intended those statements to see the light of day. The interesting question is not what Giuffre had to gain by lying. It's what Epstein had to gain by lying in a private email he sent to his girlfriend.
 
CFordUNC said:
So Trump was best friends with the most notorious pedophile of all time, spent tons of documented time at the homes and parties of said pedophile, sent sexually-implicit birthday cards back and forth with said pedophile, we now have an email trail where said pedophile discusses in writing Trump's being "the dog who hasn't yet barked" and having spent hours with a known Epstein victim at Epstein's house, is threatening/begging/pleading members of his own party to block the release of the files that are supposedly a hoax and supposedly would exonerate him......and the aroused pedo-ram thinks that the cult leader whom he worships and for whom he was surrendered every ounce of pride and decency to defend, did not participate in- or at the very least have explicit knowledge of- the rape and trafficking of minors. Do I have that right?
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Yes, except you conveniently left off the most important detail: Not socialist.
 
lawtig02 said:
It probably is, but that just begs the question why Ramrouser credits statements made in an intimidating legal environment by a young rape and sexual trafficking survivor who was so traumatized she tragically took her own life earlier this year, over an email exchange between the two primary perpetrators of her rape and sexual trafficking, who never intended those statements to see the light of day. The interesting question is not what Giuffre had to gain by lying. It's what Epstein had to gain by lying in a private email he sent to his girlfriend.
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I guess it looks better if Trump was just aware of underage girls being trafficked for sex by his friend and did nothing but didn't actively participate.
 
evrheel said:
I guess it looks better if Trump was just aware of underage girls being trafficked for sex by his friend and did nothing but didn't actively participate.
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Yeah that's the charitable interpretation and yet still requires ignoring dozens of despicable statements by Trump that provide circumstantial evidence he was into it (ie the gross birthday card).
 
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