Epstein Files | Ghislaine Maxwell

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Delaware set an age of consent at age 7 some time in the 19th century, but repealed it after a few years because people realized just how gross it was.

Has anyone noticed that og is keenly aware of age of consent laws? It's the only subject on which he contributes anything other than "both parties suck you sheeple." Literally the only content I have ever seen him add is an encyclopedic knowledge of the legality of sex with young girls.
 
Yep. And when she says that Dear Leader isn't on the list his base will buy it hook, line, and sinker and feel totally vindicated. I would even expect some trash-talking from the usual suspects on this board - which will only confirm their full-fledged membership in the Cult of Trump, and their gullibility in buying everything that Trump and right-wing media say.
What is truly terrifying is that she has all the incentive to lie and accuse people like Obama who having nothing at all to do with Epstein. Trump is so petty and he would metaphorically ejaculate all over himself if she said something like that. A pardon would be guaranteed and it would probably be a universal pardon that included a time period that would cover perjury. (My guess is that these interviews were simply to negotiate terms of a pardon.)

Then Maxwell could leave the country to somewhere where she could not be compelled to testify once Trump left office.

I risk is that they did something like that which would be so absurd that it can’t be believed by anyone other than people like callatroy.

I recognize that I sound conspiratorial but something like that will either happen or not. I am not claiming it has happened and it is easily falsifiable - even something like that doesn’t happen then my concern will be alleviated.
 
it really wasnt that long ago that the age of consent was 7-10 yrs old in most states.

history of the us has a lot more to be ashamed of than proud of....yes your family tree wwas part of the many atrocities i assure you. you can run from them and act holier than thou or accept them.
Maybe your tree. I assure you if a pedophile had touched one of my sisters that bastard would have been or wished he was dead. And my dad grew up as a Pee Dee River swamper. What was left my mom would have finished off. Considering they would now be more than 130 years old, I think “7-10” is BS.
 
Azealia Banks grew up with a completely different cultural/moral baseline than I did. It was normal for grown ass men to be fucking 14 year old girls into the 1990’s? Nah. This bitch grew up in the nastiest trailer park in Chadbourn.
I graduated high school in 1989. From my sophomore year to my senior year there was a cute girl who was three years younger than me who had a crush on me. (My school was k-12 and 7-12 shared the same hallways, cafeteria times, etc.)

She was obviously too young when in 7th grade and I never dated her.

Anyway fast forward a few years and I briefly dated her when she was a 17 year old senior and I was a junior in college. It was sort of long distance. This would have been 1991/2. I was keenly aware that I had to be very careful because she was 17. I refused any efforts she made to go further than kissing. (I was still a virgin so you can imagine how hard that was.)

The point being, anyone who claims that having sex with minors was not frowned upon and prosecuted in the 1990’s is an idiot. Every guy knew they had to be careful. Every guy knew of cases where adults were charged with statutory rape.

Now all that said, I wasn’t aware that the age of consent isn’t always 18 nor was I aware of the laws that protected people who were close to the same age.

Ironically we broke up because she wrote a letter to me asking why I wouldn’t do certain things. He grandparents found the letter and basically said we couldn’t see each other anymore. I mean, f’ me. Haha. (I did find out later that they had a lot of respect for me over it and I wasn’t who they were upset with.)
 
I graduated high school in 1989. From my sophomore year to my senior year there was a cute girl who was three years younger than me who had a crush on me. (My school was k-12 and 7-12 shared the same hallways, cafeteria times, etc.)

She was obviously too young when in 7th grade and I never dated her.

Anyway fast forward a few years and I briefly dated her when she was a 17 year old senior and I was a junior in college. It was sort of long distance. This would have been 1991/2. I was keenly aware that I had to be very careful because she was 17. I refused any efforts she made to go further than kissing. (I was still a virgin so you can imagine how hard that was.)

The point being, anyone who claims that having sex with minors was not frowned upon and prosecuted in the 1990’s is an idiot. Every guy knew they had to be careful. Every guy knew of cases where adults were charged with statutory rape.

Now all that said, I wasn’t aware that the age of consent isn’t always 18 nor was I aware of the laws that protected people who were close to the same age.

Ironically we broke up because she wrote a letter to me asking why I wouldn’t do certain things. He grandparents found the letter and basically said we couldn’t see each other anymore. I mean, f’ me. Haha. (I did find out later that they had a lot of respect for me over it and I wasn’t who they were upset with.)
My first was when I was 18 and she was 17 back in 1993, and I did not think about it at all.
 
I graduated high school in 1989. From my sophomore year to my senior year there was a cute girl who was three years younger than me who had a crush on me. (My school was k-12 and 7-12 shared the same hallways, cafeteria times, etc.)

She was obviously too young when in 7th grade and I never dated her.

Anyway fast forward a few years and I briefly dated her when she was a 17 year old senior and I was a junior in college. It was sort of long distance. This would have been 1991/2. I was keenly aware that I had to be very careful because she was 17. I refused any efforts she made to go further than kissing. (I was still a virgin so you can imagine how hard that was.)

The point being, anyone who claims that having sex with minors was not frowned upon and prosecuted in the 1990’s is an idiot. Every guy knew they had to be careful. Every guy knew of cases where adults were charged with statutory rape.

Now all that said, I wasn’t aware that the age of consent isn’t always 18 nor was I aware of the laws that protected people who were close to the same age.

Ironically we broke up because she wrote a letter to me asking why I wouldn’t do certain things. He grandparents found the letter and basically said we couldn’t see each other anymore. I mean, f’ me. Haha. (I did find out later that they had a lot of respect for me over it and I wasn’t who they were upset with.)
I don’t want sound like OG, but the Texas age of consent in 1995 was 16, with an affirmative defense down to 14 if the defendant could prove the victim was sexually active previously.
 
Wonder how many of those were second wives with the first wife lost in child birth. I expect it was a statistically relevant number.
STATISTICALLY IRRELEVANT DATA WARNING!
Among my great-grandparents' generation, 4 couples, two of my g-grandmothers were second wives, where the first wife died in child birth. So in my case, 1/2. Those are two lonely gravestones.
 
EXCLUSIVE

Here’s what’s on the Jeffrey Epstein list that the Trump DOJ is set to release later today​



“The Justice Department is preparing to release notorious sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein’s personal address book Thursday, The Post has learned.

A source who has reviewed the files said the release spans more than 100 pages, including a list of contacts without further context.

The person said the unveiling was likely to be a “disappointment” to sleuths eager for bombshell new evidence about the billionaire pedophile’s connection to prominent political and business leaders. …”
Trump has to be on this or it will really appear doctored.

I'm actually not a fan of this being released. We don't need this type of transparency. There are likely 1000 or so names in that and every one of them will be accused of being a pedophile which obviously can't be true.
 
Trump has to be on this or it will really appear doctored.

I'm actually not a fan of this being released. We don't need this type of transparency. There are likely 1000 or so names in that and every one of them will be accused of being a pedophile which obviously can't be true.
i think some people would be shocked at the amount of pedo's there really are in our society
 
Trump has to be on this or it will really appear doctored.

I'm actually not a fan of this being released. We don't need this type of transparency. There are likely 1000 or so names in that and every one of them will be accused of being a pedophile which obviously can't be true.
If there were any reason to believe someone else was a pedophile, wouldn't they have been arrested by now?
 
If there were any reason to believe someone else was a pedophile, wouldn't they have been arrested by now?
Well, not really. There has to be sufficient enough evidence that they engaged in some sort of illegal act (being a pedophile, by itself, is not a crime). For the Feds to pick it up, “sufficient enough” means that they’re at least almost certain they would get a guilty verdict if they tried the case (i.e., what they deem to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt). So there could be evidence that might lead one to believe that someone has engaged in illegal acts with minors, but that may not be enough to prosecute.
 
If there were any reason to believe someone else was a pedophile, wouldn't they have been arrested by now?
Belief comes way behind proof and evidence when it comes to arresting people. Matter of fact, it means very damned little. It might also surprise you to find that people who know pedophiles' secrets are frequently in a glass houses and stones situation.

I have a few minutes to help you play naif.
 
I don’t want sound like OG, but the Texas age of consent in 1995 was 16, with an affirmative defense down to 14 if the defendant could prove the victim was sexually active previously.
Two young people in an intimate relationship where one is 17 and the other is 20 is very different than what Trump (presumably) and many others were doing when palling around with Epstein.
 
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Well, not really. There has to be sufficient enough evidence that they engaged in some sort of illegal act (being a pedophile, by itself, is not a crime). For the Feds to pick it up, “sufficient enough” means that they’re at least almost certain they would get a guilty verdict if they tried the case (i.e., what they deem to be proof beyond a reasonable doubt). So there could be evidence that might lead one to believe that someone has engaged in illegal acts with minors, but that may not be enough to prosecute.
You would think, given all of the evidence they have from cell phones, computers, etc, if there was anything "there", it would have been uncovered.

Not to mention the fact that there are surely law firms and media outlets digging into this, finding/talking to victims, etc that would have uncovered something by now or in the near future.
 
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