bridgetender
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I have come to the conclusion that they're not telling that to democrats as a threat, but rather as they're last defense to justify defending Trump in their own mind.
Epstein Files | Ghislaine Maxwell
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For years, Bannon – the architect of MAGA, Trump’s first campaign manager and former White House chief strategist – has used his War Room podcast to promote QAnon conspiracy theories about the Democrat Party as a cabal of child molesters.
He once described QAnon as “the elephant in the room”; had Republican representative Marjorie Taylor Greene on his show calling Democrats “the party of paedophiles”; and urged listeners to call their senators and oppose the confirmation of Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson by relaying “your unexpurgated opinion on what you think of Judge Jackson in this area of child torture, child rape, baby torture, and baby rape.”
Yet the new emails released by the House Oversight Committee, reviewed by Byline Times reveal that in contrast, Steve Bannon had worked closely with Jeffrey Epstein, an American financier and convicted sex offender accused of operating a vast international sex trafficking ring involving underage girls. …”
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“… It is crucial to recall that all of this is playing out while public scrutiny of Epstein is accelerating in the form of civil suits and journalistic investigations. During this period when most public figures distanced themselves, Bannon writes to Epstein:
Steve Bannon has sought to recast himself as the man sounding the alarm about a liberal Epstein “cover-up”, insisting that the real scandal lies in the hidden networks Epstein built among Democrats, financiers and “globalists”. On his broadcasts, he has spoken in apocalyptic tones about dark elites and state complicity.
The newly released emails make that position untenable.
Taken together, the 45 emails collapse the distance between two public myths. The myth of Epstein as a creature of the liberal elite, and the myth of Bannon as the man exposing him.
In their place emerges a private record that is far more revealing. They show how a convicted sex offender and a self-styled populist strategist – the very architect of the MAGA movement – worked together in the shadows, swapping contacts, advice, political intelligence and favours, while hiding the relationship from the very public whose anger they sought to mobilise….”
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Interesting, long article walking through the implications of the collaborative emails between Bannon and Epstein between 2018-2019. And it also shows that Epstein remained actively pro-Trump (whether by dint of actual support or be cause that was the best deal available to him we can’t tell from this limited info) up until near his arrest and eventual death.
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“… Mark Epstein told Newsweek the individual was not Clinton. He did not provide any additional details about the identity of “Bubba” or the meaning of the emails. …”
ChileG
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I have not been following too closely because I always assumed Epstein’s brother was making a joke about Trump blowing Clinton…
Serious question - do people really believe Trump actually gave Clinton oral sex? And I don’t mean the conspiracy theory type, I’m asking if generally people think that.
Also, is there any reason to actually believe Mark Epstein’s comment was to be taken literally?
Serious question - do people really believe Trump actually gave Clinton oral sex? And I don’t mean the conspiracy theory type, I’m asking if generally people think that.
Also, is there any reason to actually believe Mark Epstein’s comment was to be taken literally?
Not that I've seen. Otoh, with Trump's overweening ego and sense of privilege plus the circles he ran in, if he did, no one would much care or do anything but joke about it.
I tend to doubt it because he's such a wuss in real life that I don't see him acting out.
takingAdookie
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Funny stuff, homies.
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You question contains two suppositions that I do not assume are true: 1) St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago would never perform oral sex on another man as part of some scheme to gain favor or influence with that man. 2) Bill Clinton would be averse to receiving oral sex from anyone who did not have two X chromosomes. While I strongly suspect that both those suppositions would apply to you, I am not certain that that they would apply to someone like St. Donald who views every aspect of life as transactional and his moral code is defined in terms of what advances or hinders his personal agenda.
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Yeah I think it was a joke that people are latching on to for some reason, which is really damaging the actual information that is coming to light. It's changing the important focus for homophobic laughs.
lawtig02
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That seems like an answer that’s not particularly helpful for Trump.
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I agree. An answer that would have been helpful to St. Donald of Mar-a-Lago was to characterize the remark as a joke, not to say words to the effect of "It was a different Bubba."
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If I were Donald Trump, and I'm not, thankfully, I'd prefer the public just believe that I blew Bill Clinton. At least Bill is a famous, powerful guy. The last thing I'd want is for people to know that I just blew a random redneck named Bubba. Talk about a step down.
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Of all the denials I expected from that email, this was not one of them.
So, now, who is Bubba? And what did Trump do with him?
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Cunningham? Forced him to hire Belichick?