Epstein Files | They’ve released wild claims

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BlueSteel said:
Am I reading this correctly? This is completely damning stuff, right? Trump could really go down for this. Right??
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No, his power over his flock is too cult-like to be derailed by this. He was not kidding that he could shoot someone in middle of 5th Ave and get away with it.

He will lose some on the fringes, but too many of his sycophants are too deep down the road with him on this to ever admit his true nature.

Fox will ignore the stuff about Trump other than to say "unverified", but will run with the Clinton and bill gates and other stuff like it is red letter text from the Bible.
 
nycfan said:
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I have to agree with his statement about the public not discovering men's names in the released and redacted Epstein files. Duh, everyone understands why it is taking so long to:
(a) review the files,
(b) contact those who named in the files,
(c) negotiate a price to redact the name,
(d) receive the negotiated payment and deposit it in a Middle Eastern bank,
(e) actually redact the name from the documents that are being released, and
(f) store a duplicate set of unredacted documents in a secure location in case leverage and/or additional funds are needed at some point in the future.
 
superrific said:
Could you summarize the damningness for me?
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The document that was released and then, apparently, withdrawn contains unsubstantiated claims made to the FBI about Trump's sexual abuse of women in connection with Epstein. Some of them, if true, are unequivocally rape and sex trafficking that would result in an ordinary person spending the rest of his life in prison. As is typical with many valid sexual abuse claims, the ones contained in that chart do not appear to have been able to be substantiated with independent evidence. I don't think, from what I've seen, that it's valid to say those claims would have likely resulted in a conviction.

I'm 100% certain, though, that if such claims had been made against any politician in modern American history other than Donald Trump, they would have absolutely and unequivocally ended that person's political career. This is (many) orders of magnitude worse than the accusations that caused Al Franken to resign. I will never, ever understand how someone could vote for a man with these types of accusations against him. And it's not like they're incredible. There's not a damn person on the planet who would be surprised if every single one of them was proven to be true.
 
I’ll probably be proven wrong because their lowness seems to have no bottom, but like I said earlier in the thread, I feel like this is the one thing that could turn some MAGA’s on Trump…especially women/moms. Look at MTG.

But only if the girl is underaged. If she’s legal, all bets are off and it’s business as usual.
 
www.theguardian.com

Jeffrey Epstein sent money to Mandelson’s husband after prison release, emails suggest

Child sex offender sent thousands of pounds to Reinaldo Avila da Silva, according to documents published by US justice department
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Jeffrey Epstein sent thousands of pounds in bank transfers after his release from prison in 2009 to Peter Mandelson’s husband, according to emails published by the US Department of Justice on Friday.

The latest documents raise fresh questions about Epstein’s relationship with Mandelson, who was sacked as the UK’s ambassador to Washington when details of his support for the disgraced financier emerged in September.


The latest dataset published on Friday shows that Mandelson’s husband, Reinaldo Avila da Silva, emailed Epstein on 7 September 2009, about two months after Epstein was released from prison. Epstein had served 13 months of an 18-month sentence for soliciting prostitution from a minor, for which he was registered as a sex offender. Mandelson was business secretary at the time and in a relationship with da Silva. The pair married in 2023 after 27 years together.

Da Silva asked Epstein to fund an osteopathy course and other expenses, saying: “I sent you a couple of emails last week regarding my osteo course expenses, incl fee, anatomical models, laptop if you can help me with this. I hope you received them.

“I just managed to speak to the fees office at the osteo school and confirmed that my annual fee is of £3,225 … They accept bank transfer and the details are as follows.”

Epstein responded later that day and said: “I will wire your loan amount immediated’y [sic].”

The next day, Da Silva emailed Epstein again to ask if a £10,000 payment included his school fees or if that amount had been transferred to the school itself. Epstein responded: “includedd” [sic].

After da Silva sent details about his course, to which Epstein said he would “wire the loan amount”, Mandelson emailed Epstein saying: “Remind him that to avoid a gift-tax filing it must be a loan.”

Da Silva emailed Epstein on 17 September and said: “thank you for the money which arrived in my account this morning”.
 
Countdown to the almost certain "IT WAS A.I. DOCUMENTS PRODUCED BY SLEEPY JOE BIDEN & THE RADICAL SOROS-FUNDED DEMOCRATS!!" tweetnado :rolleyes:
 
nycfan said:




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I noticed some of the links posted online were going to DOJ file not found error pages. Maybe this is why?
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So, the DOJ did not properly check the files they released, they released some that accused Trump of rape, then they removed them before anyone could download/screenshot them?

Disbelief No GIF
 
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