Epstein Files | WSJ releases 50th bday letter from Trump to Epstein

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nycfan said:
“Enigmas never age” — enigma need not be an anagram, that looks pretty bad as is in this context.

“What’s the play here? 23 years ago someone forged a letter from Donald Trump to be put into a birthday book for Jeffrey Epstein… that’s not gonna sell.” — you are talking about a guy and his base who claimed that someone cleverly planted a Barack Obama birth announcement in a Honolulu paper over forty years prior to Obama running for POTUS even though he was allegedly born in Kenya. So even if you ever convince the base that the card is not a new forgery by Biden or Comey, they will believe a forgery was planted decades ago targeting Trump.

I believe WSJ says they got the birthday card from Ghislaine Maxwell, who had collected years of Epstein’s correspondence with famous people, so TBD whether FBI and DOJ knew about it previously.

Meanwhile, Maxwell has asked SCOTUS to weigh in on her claim that she was wrongly prosecuted in violation of a (very odd) co-conspirator clause in a non-prosecution agreement Epstein made with the Southern District of Florida in the original prosecution of Epstein in 2007. DOJ’s memo opposing her appeal was filed earlier this week: https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/24/24-1073/365132/20250714161434468_24-1073_Maxwell_Opp.pdf
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Wild that it has taken a newspaper 10 years of Trump to finally start investigating the allegations that the president of the United States is a child molester, but better late than never, I guess.

Rupert Murdoch, welcome to the resistance!
 


Yeah, well, in Vance’s defense it may be hard to have any self-respect when you grew up knowing that your own mother would gladly trade you for half an oxy at the drop of a hat.
 
overnight, a defense sprang up that Trump would/had never used an apparently obscure word (to MAGA faithful) like “enigma” …



Another attempted defense was that Trump never sends typed notes …

 
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Wild that it has taken a newspaper 10 years of Trump to finally start investigating the allegations that the president of the United States is a child molester, but better late than never, I guess.

Rupert Murdoch, welcome to the resistance!
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this and the lawsuit giving them discovery access standout to me.

The power of the president could quash the latter somehow, but WSJ knows who they are dealing with and I would think that this is just a teaser.
 
ChileG said:
No one will be fooled by this? Does he mean outside of every single Trump voter including those who are practicing attorneys
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Great point. What he probably meant to say was nobody who isn’t an irreparably brainwashed dolt- say, the kind who thought that Adolf Hitler was a left-winger because if the name National Socialist in his party’s name- will he fooled by this.
 
ChileG said:
No one will be fooled by this? Does he mean outside of every single Trump voter including the lawyers?
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The only viable conclusion from all of this is that Trump thinks his supporters like Ram are even dumber than we do. Even if Trump is willing to go to the mattresses to keep his association with Epstein quiet, it's hard to imagine a more colossally idiotic way to do it. Every single excuse they've offered is facially absurd. I have thought for a long time the Epstein stuff is overblown and mainly a creature of the right wing fever swamps, but goodgooglymoogly, when the most powerful man in the world is panicking about it in the most braindead manner possible, I'm now thinking the sky's the limit.
 

How Jeffrey Epstein could finish Trump from beyond the grave​

For the first time, the Maga base is not buying what Trump is selling. Or to put it another way, someone who died six years ago is posing the greatest challenge to the president’s authority since he returned to the White House in January, writes Jon Sopel

Who owns Maga? I mean, not literally, of course. Maga is an idea rather than a thing. It is not a shop or a book. There are no bricks and mortar – although if I could have had 10 per cent from every red Make America Great Again cap sold, I wouldn’t be sitting here writing this article.

The reason I pose the question is that when there was a rumbling disquiet over sending bombers to target Iran’s nuclear facilities, the president swatted his Trumpland critics who said this wasn’t true to the core principles of Maga and America First.

He more or less said, “I invented Maga, so Maga is what I say it is.” It worked. His detractors huffed and puffed a bit, but then they went quiet. The Maga coalition fell into line behind their hero.

But over Jeffrey Epstein – the disgraced millionaire and paedophile who died in custody awaiting trial – it’s all rather different. Here, the Trumpland critics are getting noisier, and their numbers are swelling. For the first time, the base is not buying what Donald Trump is selling. Or to put it another way, someone who died six years ago is posing the greatest challenge to the president’s authority since he returned to the White House in January.

More:

www.independent.co.uk

How Jeffrey Epstein could finish Trump from beyond the grave

For the first time, the Maga base is not buying what Trump is selling. Or to put it another way, someone who died six years ago is posing the greatest challenge to the president’s authority since he returned to the White House in January, writes Jon Sopel
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
 
ZenMode said:

How Jeffrey Epstein could finish Trump from beyond the grave​

For the first time, the Maga base is not buying what Trump is selling. Or to put it another way, someone who died six years ago is posing the greatest challenge to the president’s authority since he returned to the White House in January, writes Jon Sopel

Who owns Maga? I mean, not literally, of course. Maga is an idea rather than a thing. It is not a shop or a book. There are no bricks and mortar – although if I could have had 10 per cent from every red Make America Great Again cap sold, I wouldn’t be sitting here writing this article.

The reason I pose the question is that when there was a rumbling disquiet over sending bombers to target Iran’s nuclear facilities, the president swatted his Trumpland critics who said this wasn’t true to the core principles of Maga and America First.

He more or less said, “I invented Maga, so Maga is what I say it is.” It worked. His detractors huffed and puffed a bit, but then they went quiet. The Maga coalition fell into line behind their hero.

But over Jeffrey Epstein – the disgraced millionaire and paedophile who died in custody awaiting trial – it’s all rather different. Here, the Trumpland critics are getting noisier, and their numbers are swelling. For the first time, the base is not buying what Donald Trump is selling. Or to put it another way, someone who died six years ago is posing the greatest challenge to the president’s authority since he returned to the White House in January.

More:

www.independent.co.uk

How Jeffrey Epstein could finish Trump from beyond the grave

For the first time, the Maga base is not buying what Trump is selling. Or to put it another way, someone who died six years ago is posing the greatest challenge to the president’s authority since he returned to the White House in January, writes Jon Sopel
www.independent.co.uk www.independent.co.uk
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It’s going to be hysterical when the American experiment is saved by a dead pedophile.
 
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