Epstein "stole people" who worked for Trump

SnoopRob said:
What I've noticed is that men who proclaim/are proclaimed as "alpha males" are pretty much the exact folks you describe. It's a term used by weak men to describe other weak men who pretend to be strong.

It comes off a lot like middle school boys who haven't seen a girl naked but are pretending they've had all the sex in all the positions with all the girls. They can fool each other due to ignorance of the subject, but if you have any real experience with the subject you understand very easily how absolutely full of shit they all are.
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I believe it was George Will who described Trump as "he is a weak man’s idea of a strong man, a poor man’s idea of a rich man, and a stupid man’s idea of a smart man.”
 
Ramrouser said:
I don't think Trump is a rapist or pedo for the reasons I've articulated. I think he's, at most, a crude, sometimes rude, man who occasionally groped women in his past. I'm a mainline Christian and I believe he will have to answer for those sins. I would note, we hired him as our President and Commander in Chief, not our Pope.
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If one of the deacons in your church groped some women of the congregation would you "hire" him to lead your congregation? What if one of the women was your wife? Your daughter? Mom?

If your pastor had multiple affairs with members of his flock, would you continue attending if he continued preaching every Sunday?
 
dukeman92 said:
If one of the deacons in your church groped some women of the congregation would you "hire" him to lead your congregation? What if one of the women was your wife? Your daughter? Mom?

If your pastor had multiple affairs with members of his flock, would you continue attending if he continued preaching every Sunday?
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As you are pretty much describing a majority of the right-wing evangelical preachers in America, your question pretty much answers itself. That is, if you expanded this list to contain "Your son?," if we are talking about Southern Baptist "Youth" Ministers. So yeah, he would pretty much continue attending while condemning his wife/daughter/mother/son for luring the minister into sin.
 
Ramrouser said:
I don't care if it was in 2024 or 2021, the victim has never alleged any wrongdoing whatsoever on Trump's part. But y'all keep hope alive.
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The point is, you lied about what she said in the interview. Why did you lie? It was very easy to debunk your lie. All I had to do was to watch the interview.

You said: "She didn't have one bad thing to say about Trump or her employment at the spa. She even said she was supporting Trump in the upcoming election."

This was a lie. Trump's name was not mentioned once in the interview, and she certainly said no such thing about supporting him in the 2024 election considering the interview was conducted in 2020. Do you think that everyone else here is stupid and won't check you on your dishonesty?
 
CFordUNC said:
The point is, you lied about what she said in the interview. Why did you lie? It was very easy to debunk your lie.
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Mistake. The article I read mentioned that Virginia indicated in 2024 that she supported Trump for President so I wrongly assumed the video was from 2024.

The much LARGER point is that she never accused Trump of wrongdoing when she's frequently spoke of, and sued, others like Prince Andrew of molesting her.
 
05C40 said:
As you are pretty much describing a majority of the right-wing evangelical preachers in America, your question pretty much answers itself. That is, if you expanded this list to contain "Your son?," if we are talking about Southern Baptist "Youth" Ministers. So yeah, he would pretty much continue attending while condemning his wife/daughter/mother/son for luring the minister into sin.
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Yeah, we all know the answers to these questions, I'm just enjoying pointing out the hypocrisy of Trumpers.
 
CFordUNC said:
Do you have a link to the article? I just Google searched "did virginia giuffre support donald trump for president in 2024" and so far through TEN pages of search results, I've not found anything of the sort.
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Closest I saw was Tim Pool claiming that she endorsed Trump because she tweeted to Elon Musk to release the list.

Knowing Ram, he likely absorbed this misinformation from the rightwing echo chamber and just assumed it to be true.

 
Calheel said:
Closest I saw was Tim Pool claiming that she endorsed Trump because she tweeted to Elon Musk to release the list.

Knowing Ram, he likely absorbed this misinformation from the rightwing echo chamber and just assumed it to be true.

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Closest I found was a deposition from 2016 in which Guiffre testified to having no knowledge of Trump’s involvement in any Epstein crimes.
 
Lol I knew there had to be something stupid. Makes it even funnier that he lied and said that she said that she would vote for Trump in 2024.
 
CFordUNC said:
The point is, you lied about what she said in the interview. Why did you lie? It was very easy to debunk your lie. All I had to do was to watch the interview.

You said: "She didn't have one bad thing to say about Trump or her employment at the spa. She even said she was supporting Trump in the upcoming election."

This was a lie. Trump's name was not mentioned once in the interview, and she certainly said no such thing about supporting him in the 2024 election considering the interview was conducted in 2020. Do you think that everyone else here is stupid and won't check you on your dishonesty?
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My hunch is that he didn't actually lie so much as parrot what he heard/read from someone in the rightwing propaganda networks he obviously consumes.

The more interesting aspect of this is that ramrouser continues to believe the untruths which are fed to him much like water from a firehose on a daily basis by the rightwing propaganda networks, despite being shown on here to be completely false nearly every time he engages in a thread in any depth. Yet he chooses every day to return to those propaganda networks for more untruths that conform to his beliefs rather than acquire accurate information from better sources. It really gives a good example of how brainwashed masses of the Republican Party are in the US and how the party is essential built on an "alternative reality" formed from thousands and thousands (millions and millions?) of such untruths stacked on top of one another.
 
I firmly believe that ramrouser is one of Sandi’s aliases that comes out when he gets bored at the end of a coke fueled benders. I am almost certainly wrong, but it’s my head canon.
 
sringwal said:
I firmly believe that ramrouser is one of Sandi’s aliases that comes out when he gets bored at the end of a coke fueled benders. I am almost certainly wrong, but it’s my head canon.
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Ram has essentially identified himself, irl. I don’t think he’s sandi, unless sandi has dissociative identity disorder and/or decided to essentially misrepresent a 60 yo civil lawyer, online.
 
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