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They're not giving him enough credit. Was he actually sending emails with gmail? Or was he writing a draft, saving it, and then someone comes in later to read it? That's super-secure. Foolproof, actually.
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GIFT LINKâ> https://wapo.st/42dVyTk
Waltz and staff used Gmail for government communications, officials say
Trumpâs national security adviser is trying to manage his way out of a crisis. But new revelations about his teamâs operational security are piling up in the inbox.
â⌠A senior Waltz aide used the commercial email service for highly technical conversations with colleagues at other government agencies involving sensitive military positions and powerful weapons systems relating to an ongoing conflict, according to emails reviewed by The Post. While the NSC official used his Gmail account, his interagency colleagues used government-issued accounts, headers from the email correspondence show.
Waltz has had less sensitive, but potentially exploitable information sent to his Gmail, such as his schedule and other work documents, said officials, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe what they viewed as problematic handling of information. The officials said Waltz would sometimes copy and paste from his schedule into Signal to coordinate meetings and discussions. âŚâ
Didnât General David Petraeus and his girlfriend try to do the G-mail/Yahoo mail/whatever mail âtrickâ and they were caught.
The âtrickâ was to never send an e-mail. Log into the same account and read the drafts.
YeahâŚ..no one will eff up and leave the account open. Never.
You have to NOT MAKE A MISTAKE.
The âtrickâ was to never send an e-mail. Log into the same account and read the drafts.
YeahâŚ..no one will eff up and leave the account open. Never.
You have to NOT MAKE A MISTAKE.
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It was in a great movie called Traitor starring Don Cheadle.
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Just saw an interview where Vance says that they need to make sure the TikTok app in the US is not spying on people which is good for national security but still went people to have access to this great platform. I think our adversaries have moved from TikTok to Signal. Not just spying on everyday people but the added benefit of eavesdropping on the Trump cabinet conducting sensitive business out in the open. 
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GIFT LINK
Waltz and staff used Gmail for government communications, officials say
Trumpâs national security adviser is trying to manage his way out of a crisis. But new revelations about his teamâs operational security are piling up in the inbox.
â⌠A senior Waltz aide used the commercial email service for highly technical conversations with colleagues at other government agencies involving sensitive military positions and powerful weapons systems relating to an ongoing conflict, according to emails reviewed by The Post. While the NSC official used his Gmail account, his interagency colleagues used government-issued accounts, headers from the email correspondence show.
Waltz has had less sensitive, but potentially exploitable information sent to his Gmail, such as his schedule and other work documents, said officials, who, like others, spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe what they viewed as problematic handling of information. The officials said Waltz would sometimes copy and paste from his schedule into Signal to coordinate meetings and discussions. âŚâ
But her emails!
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Pentagon Inspector General to Review Hegsethâs Role in Signal Chat
Watchdog says it will assess whether defense secretary followed department policies when he shared military strike plans in group chat
â⌠The decision by the inspector general to publicly share its move, and that it was focused on the defense chief, was unusual. The Office of the Inspector General is an independent watchdog group within the department.
⌠The office launched its review at the request of Sens. Roger Wicker (R., Miss.) and Jack Reed (D., R.I.), the chairman and ranking member, respectively, of the Senate Armed Services Committee, who wrote a letter to the inspector general last week. The White House confirmed that members of its national security team had communicated on Signal, a nongovernment app, about a coming strike in Yemen.
⌠President Trump fired 17 inspector generals across government agencies within days of taking office, including at the Pentagon. The departmentâs acting inspector general, Steven Stebbins, signed the memo announcing the review. âŚâ
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â⌠Mr. Stebbins earned a B.A. in History from the University of Vermont, where he was captain of the cross country team and ran track; an M.A. in History from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill; and an M.S. in National Resource Strategy from the National Defense University. He competed on the U.S. team at the World Military Cross Country Championships in 1987 and 1990 and is an Eagle Scout. âŚâ
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Your post sent me down a rabbit hole that turned out to be a complete dead end. Married to a member of Creed? Wasn't a member of Creed an actor on "The Office"?
Short Answer: No.
Long Answer: No. "The Office" actor, Creed Bratton was a member of "The Grass Roots." While Creed was a member of a popular band, it wasn't "Creed" and he isn't married to a sister of Mike Waltz.
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Creed was a terrible early 2000s rock band that wrapped itself in Christian imagery, while the lead singer was abusing drugs and alcohol things and committing acts ranging from assault on his wife and to suing women to prevent release of sex tapes.
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Exclusive: how the Atlanticâs Jeffrey Goldberg got added to the White House Signal group chat
Internal investigation cleared the national security adviser Mike Waltz, but the mistake was months in the making
Exclusive: how the Atlanticâs Jeffrey Goldberg got added to the White House Signal group chat
Internal investigation cleared the national security adviser Mike Waltz, but the mistake was months in the making
â⌠The disclosures nonetheless triggered a âforensic reviewâ by the White House information technology office, which found that Waltzâs phone had saved Goldbergâs number as part of an unlikely series of events that started when Goldberg emailed the Trump campaign last October.
According to three people briefed on the internal investigation, Goldberg had emailed the campaign about a story that criticized Trump for his attitude towards wounded service members. To push back against the story, the campaign enlisted the help of Waltz, their national security surrogate.
Goldbergâs email was forwarded to then-Trump spokesperson Brian Hughes, who then copied and pasted the content of the email â including the signature block with Goldbergâs phone number â into a text message that he sent to Waltz, so that he could be briefed on the forthcoming story.
Waltz did not ultimately call Goldberg, the people said, but in an extraordinary twist, inadvertently ended up saving Goldbergâs number in his iPhone â under the contact card for Hughes, now the spokesperson for the national security council.
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According to the White House, the number was erroneously saved during a âcontact suggestion updateâ by Waltzâs iPhone, which one person described as the function where an iPhone algorithm adds a previously unknown number to an existing contact that it detects may be related.
The mistake went unnoticed until last month when Waltz sought to add Hughes to the Signal group chat â but ended up adding Goldbergâs number to the 13 March message chain named âHouthi PC small groupâ, where several top US officials discussed plans for strikes against the Houthis. âŚâ
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Interesting. Provides a little bit of absolution for the mistake while simultaneously emphasizing the very point of using highly secure means of communication for things you donât want out there.Exclusive: how the Atlanticâs Jeffrey Goldberg got added to the White House Signal group chat
Internal investigation cleared the national security adviser Mike Waltz, but the mistake was months in the making
Exclusive: how the Atlanticâs Jeffrey Goldberg got added to the White House Signal group chat
Internal investigation cleared the national security adviser Mike Waltz, but the mistake was months in the makingwww.theguardian.com
â⌠The disclosures nonetheless triggered a âforensic reviewâ by the White House information technology office, which found that Waltzâs phone had saved Goldbergâs number as part of an unlikely series of events that started when Goldberg emailed the Trump campaign last October.
According to three people briefed on the internal investigation, Goldberg had emailed the campaign about a story that criticized Trump for his attitude towards wounded service members. To push back against the story, the campaign enlisted the help of Waltz, their national security surrogate.
Goldbergâs email was forwarded to then-Trump spokesperson Brian Hughes, who then copied and pasted the content of the email â including the signature block with Goldbergâs phone number â into a text message that he sent to Waltz, so that he could be briefed on the forthcoming story.
Waltz did not ultimately call Goldberg, the people said, but in an extraordinary twist, inadvertently ended up saving Goldbergâs number in his iPhone â under the contact card for Hughes, now the spokesperson for the national security council.
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According to the White House, the number was erroneously saved during a âcontact suggestion updateâ by Waltzâs iPhone, which one person described as the function where an iPhone algorithm adds a previously unknown number to an existing contact that it detects may be related.
The mistake went unnoticed until last month when Waltz sought to add Hughes to the Signal group chat â but ended up adding Goldbergâs number to the 13 March message chain named âHouthi PC small groupâ, where several top US officials discussed plans for strikes against the Houthis. âŚâ
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Someone isnât telling the truth.....Exclusive: how the Atlanticâs Jeffrey Goldberg got added to the White House Signal group chat
Internal investigation cleared the national security adviser Mike Waltz, but the mistake was months in the making
Exclusive: how the Atlanticâs Jeffrey Goldberg got added to the White House Signal group chat
Internal investigation cleared the national security adviser Mike Waltz, but the mistake was months in the making
â⌠The disclosures nonetheless triggered a âforensic reviewâ by the White House information technology office, which found that Waltzâs phone had saved Goldbergâs number as part of an unlikely series of events that started when Goldberg emailed the Trump campaign last October.
According to three people briefed on the internal investigation, Goldberg had emailed the campaign about a story that criticized Trump for his attitude towards wounded service members. To push back against the story, the campaign enlisted the help of Waltz, their national security surrogate.
Goldbergâs email was forwarded to then-Trump spokesperson Brian Hughes, who then copied and pasted the content of the email â including the signature block with Goldbergâs phone number â into a text message that he sent to Waltz, so that he could be briefed on the forthcoming story.
Waltz did not ultimately call Goldberg, the people said, but in an extraordinary twist, inadvertently ended up saving Goldbergâs number in his iPhone â under the contact card for Hughes, now the spokesperson for the national security council.
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According to the White House, the number was erroneously saved during a âcontact suggestion updateâ by Waltzâs iPhone, which one person described as the function where an iPhone algorithm adds a previously unknown number to an existing contact that it detects may be related.
The mistake went unnoticed until last month when Waltz sought to add Hughes to the Signal group chat â but ended up adding Goldbergâs number to the 13 March message chain named âHouthi PC small groupâ, where several top US officials discussed plans for strikes against the Houthis. âŚâ
âWell, this isnât âThe Matrix.â Phone numbers donât just get sucked into other phones,â Goldberg said in response to Waltzâs remarks during a Sunday appearance on NBCâs âMeet the Press.â âVery frequently in journalism, the most obvious explanation is the explanation.â
âMy phone number was in his phone because my phone number is in his phone,â he continued. âHeâs telling everyone that heâs never met me or spoken to me. Thatâs simply not true.â
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Itâs more likely that none of them are telling the truth.
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There are pictures of them side by side at at least one event, backing up Goldbergâs version, so it seems pretty certain theyâve met (however briefly) â and given Goldbergâs career of reporting national security matters (with a ton of GOP sources) and Waltzâs involvement in national security matters in the House, it would be a little odd if they had never met. It could also be true that Goldberg shared contact info with Waltz at some point but Waltz ignored it, only to have it accidentally added to his contacts under another officialâs name as reported by the Guardian.
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Disagree. Itâs more likely both accounts are true. Iâm not sure why Zen thinks theyâre inconsistent but theyâre not.
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OK, so there are three problems with this new Brian Hughes story:
1. I thought Goldberg was added because they were looking to add Jameson Greer? Were they? Was Greer supposed to be on the call? You'd think this would be information that could be obtained.
2. Brian Hughes is a state department spokesman. Or an NSC spokesman. Or some kind of spokesman. Why is he being invited into the chat about the attack plan? Is it normal to have spokesmen involved?
3. Are we supposed to believe that this was the first time Waltz had messaged or called or communicated with Hughes? If the problem was that Hughes' number was overwritten, it would have showed up the first time Waltz messaged him.
So the first message was "invitation to join group chat"? It wasn't something like, "hey, we have a group chat, are you free?" or "you're required to be in a group chat at XX:XX:XX"? It was just an invitation that shows up in his message list unannounced?
It is not credible that Hughes and Waltz talked last September or October, and then not again until the Signal fiasco.
1. I thought Goldberg was added because they were looking to add Jameson Greer? Were they? Was Greer supposed to be on the call? You'd think this would be information that could be obtained.
2. Brian Hughes is a state department spokesman. Or an NSC spokesman. Or some kind of spokesman. Why is he being invited into the chat about the attack plan? Is it normal to have spokesmen involved?
3. Are we supposed to believe that this was the first time Waltz had messaged or called or communicated with Hughes? If the problem was that Hughes' number was overwritten, it would have showed up the first time Waltz messaged him.
So the first message was "invitation to join group chat"? It wasn't something like, "hey, we have a group chat, are you free?" or "you're required to be in a group chat at XX:XX:XX"? It was just an invitation that shows up in his message list unannounced?
It is not credible that Hughes and Waltz talked last September or October, and then not again until the Signal fiasco.