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altmin said:
www.rawstory.com

'Who’s going to milk the cows?' Dairy farmers hit by Trump's deportations

www.rawstory.com www.rawstory.com


Dairy farmers who voted for President Donald Trump are worried there will be no one around to milk the cows now that the administration is cracking down on "otherwise law-abiding immigrants in the country illegally," The Boston Globe reported.

Farmers in Vermont told the Globe they voted for Trump because they liked his tough talk on quelling immigration and closing the border. Things are different now that ICE is coming for their workers.

“All the dairy farmers who voted for Trump were under the impression they weren’t going to come on farms and take our guys,” one farmer said. “It’s happening more than we’d like. It’s scaring the farming community and we’re like, ‘This wasn’t supposed to happen.’”

According to the report, "Farm owners and workers alike in this agricultural region near the Canadian border have been on edge in the month since U.S. Border Patrol officers detained eight Mexican men on Vermont’s largest dairy operation, Pleasant Valley Farms."

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These farmers need to have a conversation with the other MAGAs who believe this was supposed to happen, voted for this to happen, and agree with it 100%.
 
BubbaOtis said:
Interesting perspective on the Dem vs Trump
dynamic


"President Trump doesn’t dominate just one party in America — he dominates them both. And it’s becoming clear Trump may dominate the Democratic Party longer than he will the Republican Party.

Today, Democrats have no policies except anti-Trump policies, and they have no leaders except strident, knee-jerk Trump-opponents. "
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Meh. Speculative ramblings.
 
BubbaOtis said:
Interesting perspective on the Dem vs Trump
dynamic


"President Trump doesn’t dominate just one party in America — he dominates them both. And it’s becoming clear Trump may dominate the Democratic Party longer than he will the Republican Party.

Today, Democrats have no policies except anti-Trump policies, and they have no leaders except strident, knee-jerk Trump-opponents. "
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Another piece that J.T. Young has written is “Unprecedented Assault: How Big Government Unleashed America’s Socialist Left.”

He writes a lot for the Washington Times, Washington Examiner, The Federalist, The Hill…..

He’s not a Democrat and he’s not an unbiased observer of Democrats or American politics.
 
BubbaOtis said:
Interesting perspective on the Dem vs Trump
dynamic


"President Trump doesn’t dominate just one party in America — he dominates them both. And it’s becoming clear Trump may dominate the Democratic Party longer than he will the Republican Party.

Today, Democrats have no policies except anti-Trump policies, and they have no leaders except strident, knee-jerk Trump-opponents. "
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Help refresh my memory, when Biden became president did he immediately go after everything that trump implemented, the way trump has in both terms? In his first term trump tried to reverse everything that Obama did, in his second term he's tried to reverse everything that Biden did.

But, I believe anti the other candidate isn't something new.
 
BubbaOtis said:
Interesting perspective on the Dem vs Trump
dynamic


"President Trump doesn’t dominate just one party in America — he dominates them both. And it’s becoming clear Trump may dominate the Democratic Party longer than he will the Republican Party.

Today, Democrats have no policies except anti-Trump policies, and they have no leaders except strident, knee-jerk Trump-opponents. "
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Because he is the problem and the one destroying the country. And what exactly can the Dems do when the Pubs control Congress and are too chicken shit to do anything about Trump? That article is a load of crap, just like anyone who still supports Trump and tries to justify all he has done.
 
Zoo_View said:
Another piece that J.T. Young has written is “Unprecedented Assault: How Big Government Unleashed America’s Socialist Left.”

He writes a lot for the Washington Times, Washington Examiner, The Federalist, The Hill…..

He’s not a Democrat and he’s not an unbiased observer of Democrats or American politics.
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That's what I was going to post - this guy is a Trump right-winger through and through, and hardly an objective observer. More to the point, as others have already posted it's Trump and the GOP who have actually done nothing but react to what Biden and especially Obama did in their terms. All Trump has done in his two terms thus far - besides try to pass the inevitable GOP tax cuts aimed at the wealthy, which has been their obsession since Reagan - is to react to what Obama did and try to eliminate all of it, so it will be as if Obama was never president.

In his first term Trump tried to eliminate Obamacare and a bunch of other Obama initiatives, and in his second term Trumpers are just trying to eliminate nearly everything Democrats have done since at least FDR and the New Deal. Their entire program is reactionary, and is based on trying to drag the whole country backwards, not forwards. And if future Trump GOPers like Vance continue his crazy policies, then Democrats will likely continue to be united against the GOP whether Trump is still in office or not. A better question for Mr. Young might be what will Republicans do without Trump, as their record without him at the top of the ticket hasn't been stellar so far, either in 2018 or in a whole series of special elections held around the country in his first term and now in several special elections in his second term.
 
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BubbaOtis said:
Interesting perspective on the Dem vs Trump
dynamic


"President Trump doesn’t dominate just one party in America — he dominates them both. And it’s becoming clear Trump may dominate the Democratic Party longer than he will the Republican Party.

Today, Democrats have no policies except anti-Trump policies, and they have no leaders except strident, knee-jerk Trump-opponents. "
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There have been a lot of idiotic takes presented on this board, but this one is as bad as it gets.
 
You're welcome.

I don't necessarily agree with the article and realize it's an extremist view. I like to read extremist views. I think envisioning what the Democratic will do when they don't have Trump to kick around is an interesting thought process.
 
BubbaOtis said:
You're welcome.

I don't necessarily agree with the article and realize it's an extremist view. I like to read extremist views. I think envisioning what the Democratic will do when they don't have Trump to kick around is an interesting thought process.
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They have plenty of targets that are fucking the country, to out. Everyone associated with the heritage foundation. Mike Johnson and all the others that threw out any dignity they had in order to kiss trump's ass.
 
BubbaOtis said:
You're welcome.

I don't necessarily agree with the article and realize it's an extremist view. I like to read extremist views. I think envisioning what the Democratic will do when they don't have Trump to kick around is an interesting thought process.
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What bullshit.

I’m going to post a right-wing opinion piece and not comment about its details.

Then, in a later post I’ll claim I don’t agree with it but find its ideas “interesting.”
 
BubbaOtis said:
You're welcome.

I don't necessarily agree with the article and realize it's an extremist view. I like to read extremist views. I think envisioning what the Democratic will do when they don't have Trump to kick around is an interesting thought process.
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How do you envision the pubs when they don’t have Biden, Hillary and Obama to kick around anymore? Is that also an interesting thought process for you?
 
I dunno. I think the audacious fraud of the Biden campaign and the complicity of Dem leadership could provide some fodder. Ultimately it will come down to issues. The party that puts together the best list of policies that deal with the the issues Americans face will prevail. Immigration, the economy/inflation, health care, Social Security/Medicare, etc
I think the election will be less about personality and more about policy.
 
BubbaOtis said:
I dunno. I think the audacious fraud of the Biden campaign and the complicity of Dem leadership could provide some fodder. Ultimately it will come down to issues. The party that puts together the best list of policies that deal with the the issues Americans face will prevail. Immigration, the economy/inflation, health care, Social Security/Medicare, etc
I think the election will be less about personality and more about policy.
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The last one wasn't. Why do you think this one will? You know that rightwing media is going to double down on delivering the mushroom treatment to their dupes.
 
BubbaOtis said:
I dunno. I think the audacious fraud of the Biden campaign and the complicity of Dem leadership could provide some fodder. Ultimately it will come down to issues. The party that puts together the best list of policies that deal with the the issues Americans face will prevail. Immigration, the economy/inflation, health care, Social Security/Medicare, etc
I think the election will be less about personality and more about policy.
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Policy or promises?
 
BubbaOtis said:
I dunno. I think the audacious fraud of the Biden campaign and the complicity of Dem leadership could provide some fodder. Ultimately it will come down to issues. The party that puts together the best list of policies that deal with the the issues Americans face will prevail. Immigration, the economy/inflation, health care, Social Security/Medicare, etc
I think the election will be less about personality and more about policy.
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"audacious fraud" GTFOH. trump continues to be incapable of stringing together even the simplest messages in a coherent fashion.

the RNC does not hold the high ground in that regard or any other.
 
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