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Ramrouser said:
I don't know because I'm not a international supply chain expert and I'm guessing you aren't as well. It's a terrible look for the Department Head to be MIA when the country needed him.

I reject the premise of your second question. The trade/tariff issues will be solved or mitigated by the time any serious supply chain issues develop. Plus, at least Sean Duffy is on the job working and he's got like 10 kids - including a Downs Syndrome baby.
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He wasn’t MIA is what people are saying to you. The Fox News analysts all admit they lie for ratings, and you are taking their word for it.
 
Ramrouser said:
I'm a huge Monty Python fan and have been so since middle school. The scenes you quote from "Life of Bryan" are some of my favorites ("Listen, the only people we hate more than the Romans are the f*cking Judean People's Front..."). I'm likely a fan of numerous other comedians of whom you would classify as "liberal" humor. That goes for music and cinema as well. Things aren't always as black and white as you articulate.
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There's no law that says conservatives can't enjoy liberal humor. And most of Monty Python isn't political; they are as much a theater of the absurd than trenchant social critics.

But I would also suggest that the famed masters of comedy all adopt the liberal style for a reason. That's what humor is really made of. What passes as "conservative humor" today -- this goes all the way back to the numbingly obvious Mallard Fillmore -- is largely the creation of people who see it primarily in terms of politics rather than entertainment. Roger Ailes was not a funny guy. But he could see that the Daily Show was mauling his network, so he tried to create a conservative Daily Show. It was one of the worst programs ever put on TV and everyone knew it right from the start. Because Roger Ailes is just not funny.

There are funny movies that have a conservative bent. Brazil is largely Terry Gilliam's send-up of bureaucratic England and the sterile promises from Labor of a technocratic idyll in which bureaucrats have all the answers. Parts of it are uproariously funny (I love De Niro's renegade heating engineer) and I laugh even though it's sort of making fun of my side of the aisle (only sort of, because our politics is not 1970s Labor, but enough to mention here). The humor style, though, is what I'm calling liberal and that's why it works.

By contrast, I did not like Canadian Bacon, Michael Moore's attempt at comedy. It was made with what I would call the conservative style, which is to say blindingly obvious and ham-handed. That's because Michael Moore is just not funny in that way. He's a sketch artist at heart and his films are loosely attached series of skits, basically. Canadian Bacon was beyond his humor ability and that's why it sucked (in my opinion at least).
 
Ramrouser said:
Guess you're more of a cryin' Kimmel fan or used-to-be-funny Stephen Colbert. Gutfeld, btw, is killing them in the ratings so I'm not alone.
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I guess I'll show you by picking two random performers and insulting them and their popularity! (I don't watch much of either but that's beside the point).

Practicing attorney by day, rapier wit at all times!
 
Ruminating about the comedic value of marginal performers like Gutfield and Kimmel contains elements of our national demise. This is happening on the same day that Trump spouts off about his Constitutional responsibilities, Alcatraz and Hollywood - guess which two we're talking about most.

Kingpin is right - we're all better served if I stop responding to clowns like RamRouser.
 
Ramrouser said:
I don't know because I'm not a international supply chain expert and I'm guessing you aren't as well. It's a terrible look for the Department Head to be MIA when the country needed him.

I reject the premise of your second question. The trade/tariff issues will be solved or mitigated by the time any serious supply chain issues develop. Plus, at least Sean Duffy is on the job working and he's got like 10 kids - including a Downs Syndrome baby.
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Thank you for your reply. So as far as you and I know, not being supply chain experts, we have no idea whether Pete's paternity leave had any adverse impact on the supply chain crisis that Trump left Biden in 2021

Likewise, neither you nor I have any idea whether Sean Duffy has made any plans to prepare for possible serious supply chain issues down the road should the tariffs have an adverse impact on the supply chain.

With all due respect, I humbly suggest that you at least ditch the lame "Pete took paternity leave" meme
 
altmin said:
www.wired.com

Shein Bet Big on Donald Trump. It Lost Big, Too

The fast-fashion giant launched an elaborate PR campaign in Washington, hiring at least three high-ranking Trump officials. But it wasn’t enough to save Shein from Trump’s tariffs.
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The ultra-fast-fashion company Shein spent years carefully curating its corporate identity. Its apparent goal was to create a brand born from social media, distinct from any single place but whose products were everywhere. Shein has been more successful in some aspects of this pursuit than in others. The company grew into a global online shopping juggernaut, thanks in large part to its extremely low prices. But its efforts to remain anonymous and inoffensive have been undone by allegations of labor abuses, environmental criticisms and, despite moving its headquarters to Singapore, persistent concerns about its Chinese ownership.

Its latest shape shift took place largely behind the scenes in Washington, DC, where the company took a sharp turn over the past few years into the world of MAGA. Many companies have shamelessly courted President Donald Trump, hoping to curry favor with a uniquely transactional American leader, but few appear to have gone as far as Shein. The company counts Kash Patel, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, as a shareholder in its parent company, WIRED reported in February. Deputy US attorney general Todd Blanche, the second highest-ranking official at the Department of Justice, disclosed that Shein was previously one of his legal clients.

Jamieson Greer, the US Trade Representative (USTR) who serves as the president’s top adviser on matters related to international trade, also advised the company before joining the Trump administration, according to a former Shein employee as well as internal documents reviewed by WIRED. And a host of lobbyists drawn from the orbit of Trumpworld continue to push the company’s talking points across DC. Shein, which did not register hiring a single lobbyist until 2022, spent $3.9 million on federal lobbying last year, according to public records. In the first quarter of 2025, it has doled out $1.49 million.

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But despite the company’s overtures, Trump has dealt Shein a series of devastating blows since returning to office. His administration imposed punishing tariffs on Chinese imports that threaten to erode the company’s price advantage and simultaneously moved to close a crucial trade loophole called the de minimis provision that allowed the ecommerce giant to flood the US with low-cost packages shipped into the country duty-free.


These unwelcome developments come as Shein has struggled in its bid to go public. It is now reportedly seeking a place on London’s rapidly shrinking stock exchange after being shut out of the US market. The company is under pressure from investors to slash its valuation to around $30 billion, a steep decline from a valuation of $100 billion in 2022, according to Bloomberg.
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This is what I call: Fuck around and find out. Perfect fodder for this thread. I love it. “That’s why they call me Shein”
 
1moretimeagain said:
Gutfield also doesn’t share a time slot with Colbert, Kimmel and Fallon or The Daily Show, John Oliver and Bill Maher, for that matter.

I’ve only seen a small amount of Gutfeld and agree that it’s low grade, way too on the nose. I initially thought he was sarcastically delivering what would be a way too obvious and low bar punchline.
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Gutfeld also has an advantage in that he pretty much has conservative late-night all to himself - there's no real competition from other Trumper comedians (because there's not very many of them). There are plenty of liberal TV comedians and so the competition is much greater and their audience tends to be far more diluted. And as others have already pointed out, Gutfeld also benefits from following Fox's prime time talking head lineup of Watters, Hannity, and Ingraham - he's got a ready-built audience that likely never changes the channel until they finally go to bed, or just fall asleep in their recliner.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Gutfeld also has an advantage in that he pretty much has conservative late-night all to himself - there's no real competition from other Trumper comedians (because there's not very many of them). There are plenty of liberal TV comedians and so the competition is much greater and their audience tends to be far more diluted. And as others have already pointed out, Gutfeld also benefits from following Fox's prime time talking head lineup of Watters, Hannity, and Ingraham - he's got a ready-built audience that likely never changes the channel until they finally go to bed, or just fall asleep in their recliner.
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Ramrouser said:
Lewis Grizzard
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Why can’t those funny folks at CNN and MSNBC beat him?
 
Ramrouser said:
So, if you hire a nanny or an au pair you have "disdain" for your children? My children turned out just fine.

Pete should have never taken the position of Trans Sec. in 2021 if he knew he was going to take off two months during the supply chain crisis or at least disclosed this to the Senate during his confirmation. He did go on a tour supporting the movie during his break but I'll have to find it when I have the time. I remember there was a funny segment on Gutfeld about it.
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Yes, if you elect to hire a nanny or an au pair rather than taking time to be with your own children when possible, you have disdain for them. You are prioritizing other things more highly than the one thing you should never compromise on.
 
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