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Ruminating about the comedic value of marginal performers like Gutfield and Kimmel contains elements of our national demise. This is happening on the same day that Trump spouts off about his Constitutional responsibilities, Alcatraz and Hollywood - guess which two we're talking about most.

Kingpin is right - we're all better served if I stop responding to clowns like RamRouser.
 
Ramrouser said:
I don't know because I'm not a international supply chain expert and I'm guessing you aren't as well. It's a terrible look for the Department Head to be MIA when the country needed him.

I reject the premise of your second question. The trade/tariff issues will be solved or mitigated by the time any serious supply chain issues develop. Plus, at least Sean Duffy is on the job working and he's got like 10 kids - including a Downs Syndrome baby.
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Thank you for your reply. So as far as you and I know, not being supply chain experts, we have no idea whether Pete's paternity leave had any adverse impact on the supply chain crisis that Trump left Biden in 2021

Likewise, neither you nor I have any idea whether Sean Duffy has made any plans to prepare for possible serious supply chain issues down the road should the tariffs have an adverse impact on the supply chain.

With all due respect, I humbly suggest that you at least ditch the lame "Pete took paternity leave" meme
 
altmin said:
www.wired.com

Shein Bet Big on Donald Trump. It Lost Big, Too

The fast-fashion giant launched an elaborate PR campaign in Washington, hiring at least three high-ranking Trump officials. But it wasn’t enough to save Shein from Trump’s tariffs.
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The ultra-fast-fashion company Shein spent years carefully curating its corporate identity. Its apparent goal was to create a brand born from social media, distinct from any single place but whose products were everywhere. Shein has been more successful in some aspects of this pursuit than in others. The company grew into a global online shopping juggernaut, thanks in large part to its extremely low prices. But its efforts to remain anonymous and inoffensive have been undone by allegations of labor abuses, environmental criticisms and, despite moving its headquarters to Singapore, persistent concerns about its Chinese ownership.

Its latest shape shift took place largely behind the scenes in Washington, DC, where the company took a sharp turn over the past few years into the world of MAGA. Many companies have shamelessly courted President Donald Trump, hoping to curry favor with a uniquely transactional American leader, but few appear to have gone as far as Shein. The company counts Kash Patel, the director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation, as a shareholder in its parent company, WIRED reported in February. Deputy US attorney general Todd Blanche, the second highest-ranking official at the Department of Justice, disclosed that Shein was previously one of his legal clients.

Jamieson Greer, the US Trade Representative (USTR) who serves as the president’s top adviser on matters related to international trade, also advised the company before joining the Trump administration, according to a former Shein employee as well as internal documents reviewed by WIRED. And a host of lobbyists drawn from the orbit of Trumpworld continue to push the company’s talking points across DC. Shein, which did not register hiring a single lobbyist until 2022, spent $3.9 million on federal lobbying last year, according to public records. In the first quarter of 2025, it has doled out $1.49 million.

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But despite the company’s overtures, Trump has dealt Shein a series of devastating blows since returning to office. His administration imposed punishing tariffs on Chinese imports that threaten to erode the company’s price advantage and simultaneously moved to close a crucial trade loophole called the de minimis provision that allowed the ecommerce giant to flood the US with low-cost packages shipped into the country duty-free.


These unwelcome developments come as Shein has struggled in its bid to go public. It is now reportedly seeking a place on London’s rapidly shrinking stock exchange after being shut out of the US market. The company is under pressure from investors to slash its valuation to around $30 billion, a steep decline from a valuation of $100 billion in 2022, according to Bloomberg.
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This is what I call: Fuck around and find out. Perfect fodder for this thread. I love it. “That’s why they call me Shein”
 
1moretimeagain said:
Gutfield also doesn’t share a time slot with Colbert, Kimmel and Fallon or The Daily Show, John Oliver and Bill Maher, for that matter.

I’ve only seen a small amount of Gutfeld and agree that it’s low grade, way too on the nose. I initially thought he was sarcastically delivering what would be a way too obvious and low bar punchline.
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Gutfeld also has an advantage in that he pretty much has conservative late-night all to himself - there's no real competition from other Trumper comedians (because there's not very many of them). There are plenty of liberal TV comedians and so the competition is much greater and their audience tends to be far more diluted. And as others have already pointed out, Gutfeld also benefits from following Fox's prime time talking head lineup of Watters, Hannity, and Ingraham - he's got a ready-built audience that likely never changes the channel until they finally go to bed, or just fall asleep in their recliner.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Gutfeld also has an advantage in that he pretty much has conservative late-night all to himself - there's no real competition from other Trumper comedians (because there's not very many of them). There are plenty of liberal TV comedians and so the competition is much greater and their audience tends to be far more diluted. And as others have already pointed out, Gutfeld also benefits from following Fox's prime time talking head lineup of Watters, Hannity, and Ingraham - he's got a ready-built audience that likely never changes the channel until they finally go to bed, or just fall asleep in their recliner.
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Ramrouser said:
Lewis Grizzard
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Why can’t those funny folks at CNN and MSNBC beat him?
 
Ramrouser said:
So, if you hire a nanny or an au pair you have "disdain" for your children? My children turned out just fine.

Pete should have never taken the position of Trans Sec. in 2021 if he knew he was going to take off two months during the supply chain crisis or at least disclosed this to the Senate during his confirmation. He did go on a tour supporting the movie during his break but I'll have to find it when I have the time. I remember there was a funny segment on Gutfeld about it.
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Yes, if you elect to hire a nanny or an au pair rather than taking time to be with your own children when possible, you have disdain for them. You are prioritizing other things more highly than the one thing you should never compromise on.
 
wmheel1287 said:
Yes, if you elect to hire a nanny or an au pair rather than taking time to be with your own children when possible, you have disdain for them. You are prioritizing other things more highly than the one thing you should never compromise on.
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How many kids?
 
SmilingJack said:

The whole town voted for Trump and found out.
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That article summarizes a clear pattern that has emerged with Trump voters who are suffering from his policies - they all say they supported his promises to cut government "waste" and the size of government, but then express surprise and dismay that Trump 2.0 is cutting federal jobs, or jobs supported by the federal government, in their town. It really is the classic line "I was all for them cutting other people's jobs, but I didn't think they'd ever cut the jobs our town depends on!" In other words, pure selfishness, combined with a continued cult-like faith that, in spite of all contrary evidence, Trump knows what he's doing and will hopefully come around and realize just how important the federal jobs located in their town are, and will save those jobs. And of course Trump doesn't care about his supporters or their little towns any more than he does his enemies. Everyone and everything is expendable to him, including these people.
 
No, just basic, common sense (something modern Dems lack). You know like two genders, closing the border and allowing the police to do their job.
 
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