FAFO

[heelinhell]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/teslas-uk-sales-lowest-over-083516364.html

 

[Bigs23]

That article summarizes a clear pattern that has emerged with Trump voters who are suffering from his policies - they all say they supported his promises to cut government "waste" and the size of government, but then express surprise and dismay that Trump 2.0 is cutting federal jobs, or jobs supported by the federal government, in their town. It really is the classic line "I was all for them cutting other people's jobs, but I didn't think they'd ever cut the jobs our town depends on!" In other words, pure selfishness, combined with a continued cult-like faith that, in spite of all contrary evidence, Trump knows what he's doing and will hopefully come around and realize just how important the federal jobs located in their town are, and will save those jobs. And of course Trump doesn't care about his supporters or their little towns any more than he does his enemies. Everyone and everything is expendable to him, including these people.

They believed the nonsense that there were thousands of government employees sitting around doing nothing except for committing “fraud” all day.
They thought these boogeymen were the ones who would be cut.

 

[ChileG]

He lived across the street from me. Culturally conservative more than political.

I used to read his columns. That’s cool that you knew him.

 

[heelinhell]

They believed the nonsense that there were thousands of government employees sitting around doing nothing except for committing “fraud” all day.
They thought these boogeymen were the ones who would be cut.

Yep

Michael Lewis' book Who Is Government ? should be required reading in every high school civics class ( assuming such classes still exist )

"Whether they’re digitizing archives, chasing down cybercriminals, or discovering new planets, these public servants are committed to their work and universally reluctant to take credit. Expanding on the Washington Post series, the vivid profiles in Who Is Government? blow up the stereotype of the irrelevant bureaucrat. They show how the essential business of government makes our lives possible, and how much it matters."

 

[4thgenheel]

No, just basic, common sense (something modern Dems lack). You know like two genders, closing the border and allowing the police to do their job.

gender is a social construct and you fascist pieces of shit think that laws and policing should only apply to brown people and women and the lgbtq community.

 

[superrific]

gender is a social construct

Gender identity is not. The problem with Ramrouser's claim isn't, as you imply, that he's making a category mistake. It's that his contention is simply false as an empirical matter. Which he knows, evidenced by his nonsense appeals to "common sense."

Common sense can be used fruitfully as an adjective. Indeed, Justice Breyer often talked about "common sense" solutions or remedies. But when a person's position depends on using common sense as a noun, it generally means they have lost the argument and/or have nothing useful to say. Common sense, used in this way, is no more than polished ignorance. Some things that have been considered common sense over the years:

A. The sun revolves around the Earth
B. God does not play dice with the universe
C. Washing hands before surgery makes no difference to infection rates
D. The best way to reduce pollution is to require all power plants to meet stringent emissions limitations

All of them are false. As are most things defended with "common sense."

 

[4thgenheel]

Gender identity is not. The problem with Ramrouser's claim isn't, as you imply, that he's making a category mistake. It's that his contention is simply false as an empirical matter. Which he knows, evidenced by his nonsense appeals to "common sense."

Common sense can be used fruitfully as an adjective. Indeed, Justice Breyer often talked about "common sense" solutions or remedies. But when a person's position depends on using common sense as a noun, it generally means they have lost the argument and/or have nothing useful to say. Common sense, used in this way, is no more than polished ignorance. Some things that have been considered common sense over the years:

A. The sun revolves around the Earth
B. God does not play dice with the universe
C. Washing hands before surgery makes no difference to infection rates
D. The best way to reduce pollution is to require all power plants to meet stringent emissions limitations

All of them are false. As are most things defended with "common sense."

absolutely. everyone has their own personal and internal sense of self. i fully realize that isn't a social construct but the notion that bio males must conform to this role/identity and bio females must conform that role/identity is most definitely a social construct.

as we discussed recently, chatgpt is a real wealth of knowledge. it generated a really thorough rundown for me on sex vs. gender vs. gender identity that should be required reading for all of these right wingers.

 

[altmin]

Trump-voting parents "feel betrayed" after ICE agents detain their son

An Argentine American couple spoke out after their son, a green card holder, was detained and sent to a Georgia detention center.

www.newsweek.com

Gentile, a father of two, was stopped by officials in February after returning from a trip abroad and landing at Los Angeles International Airport. DHS officials confiscated his green card and Argentine passport and directed him to report to a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) office in Raleigh, North Carolina, where he lives. Officials there detained him and sent him to a local county jail. He was then transferred to Stewart Detention Center.

Gentile was convicted in 2020 of infliction of injury and sentenced to three years' probation, according to court records seen by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The case was closed in 2023.

 

[altmin]

Congress’s Fight Over Trump’s Agenda Runs Through Alaska

Republicans in Congress are clashing over whether to repeal Biden-era clean energy tax credits that are a lifeline for some of their constituents.

www.nytimes.com

Twice a month, planes land on the gravel airstrip in Noatak, Alaska, about 70 miles north of the Arctic Circle, carrying the diesel that residents need to heat their homes in the bitter cold.

And once a month, they receive electricity bills four times higher than those for most of the rest of the country that include two separate charges: one for the cost of the energy itself, and another for the cost of the fuel used to fly it there.

“The fuel cost is the thing that kills,” Bessie Monroe, 56, who works as an assistant to the village’s tribal administrator, said as she pulled up her bill. Even though she supplements the heat from her generator with a wood-burning stove — and can still sometimes feel the chill of wind through one of her walls — Ms. Monroe has paid roughly $250 a month for electricity for her small one-bedroom house this winter.
So a few years ago, in an effort to build a local source of electricity and save residents money, the Inupiat village of 500 worked with its utility company to install a small farm of solar panels. And when Congress approved new tax credits for clean energy projects in 2022 through the Inflation Reduction Act, signed into law by President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the village saw an opportunity to buy more.

But the fate of the project — and dozens more like it in Alaska and around the country — is now in doubt, leaving villagers unsure of their financial future.

Those doubts are at the root of an intraparty feud unfolding among Republicans in Washington, where G.O.P. members of Congress are casting about for ways to pay for President Trump’s domestic agenda. Some fiscal hard-liners have zeroed in on clean energy tax credits as a prime target for elimination.


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40-026 Noatak - Harris: 19 19.19%, Trump: 66 66.67%

 

[Zoo_View]

Congress’s Fight Over Trump’s Agenda Runs Through Alaska

Republicans in Congress are clashing over whether to repeal Biden-era clean energy tax credits that are a lifeline for some of their constituents.

www.nytimes.com

Twice a month, planes land on the gravel airstrip in Noatak, Alaska, about 70 miles north of the Arctic Circle, carrying the diesel that residents need to heat their homes in the bitter cold.

And once a month, they receive electricity bills four times higher than those for most of the rest of the country that include two separate charges: one for the cost of the energy itself, and another for the cost of the fuel used to fly it there.

“The fuel cost is the thing that kills,” Bessie Monroe, 56, who works as an assistant to the village’s tribal administrator, said as she pulled up her bill. Even though she supplements the heat from her generator with a wood-burning stove — and can still sometimes feel the chill of wind through one of her walls — Ms. Monroe has paid roughly $250 a month for electricity for her small one-bedroom house this winter.
So a few years ago, in an effort to build a local source of electricity and save residents money, the Inupiat village of 500 worked with its utility company to install a small farm of solar panels. And when Congress approved new tax credits for clean energy projects in 2022 through the Inflation Reduction Act, signed into law by President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the village saw an opportunity to buy more.

But the fate of the project — and dozens more like it in Alaska and around the country — is now in doubt, leaving villagers unsure of their financial future.

Those doubts are at the root of an intraparty feud unfolding among Republicans in Washington, where G.O.P. members of Congress are casting about for ways to pay for President Trump’s domestic agenda. Some fiscal hard-liners have zeroed in on clean energy tax credits as a prime target for elimination.


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40-026 Noatak - Harris: 19 19.19%, Trump: 66 66.67%

Solar panels in Noatak, AK? They aren’t producing much energy in the winter.

Wood-burning stove in Noatak? Where’s the wood coming from?

Some wind turbines are engineered to work at temps as low as -30 C/-22 F; but, problems with blades icing still exist.

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Trump-voting parents "feel betrayed" after ICE agents detain their son

An Argentine American couple spoke out after their son, a green card holder, was detained and sent to a Georgia detention center.

www.newsweek.com

Gentile, a father of two, was stopped by officials in February after returning from a trip abroad and landing at Los Angeles International Airport. DHS officials confiscated his green card and Argentine passport and directed him to report to a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) office in Raleigh, North Carolina, where he lives. Officials there detained him and sent him to a local county jail. He was then transferred to Stewart Detention Center.

Gentile was convicted in 2020 of infliction of injury and sentenced to three years' probation, according to court records seen by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The case was closed in 2023.

Congress’s Fight Over Trump’s Agenda Runs Through Alaska

Republicans in Congress are clashing over whether to repeal Biden-era clean energy tax credits that are a lifeline for some of their constituents.

www.nytimes.com

Twice a month, planes land on the gravel airstrip in Noatak, Alaska, about 70 miles north of the Arctic Circle, carrying the diesel that residents need to heat their homes in the bitter cold.

And once a month, they receive electricity bills four times higher than those for most of the rest of the country that include two separate charges: one for the cost of the energy itself, and another for the cost of the fuel used to fly it there.

“The fuel cost is the thing that kills,” Bessie Monroe, 56, who works as an assistant to the village’s tribal administrator, said as she pulled up her bill. Even though she supplements the heat from her generator with a wood-burning stove — and can still sometimes feel the chill of wind through one of her walls — Ms. Monroe has paid roughly $250 a month for electricity for her small one-bedroom house this winter.
So a few years ago, in an effort to build a local source of electricity and save residents money, the Inupiat village of 500 worked with its utility company to install a small farm of solar panels. And when Congress approved new tax credits for clean energy projects in 2022 through the Inflation Reduction Act, signed into law by President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the village saw an opportunity to buy more.

But the fate of the project — and dozens more like it in Alaska and around the country — is now in doubt, leaving villagers unsure of their financial future.

Those doubts are at the root of an intraparty feud unfolding among Republicans in Washington, where G.O.P. members of Congress are casting about for ways to pay for President Trump’s domestic agenda. Some fiscal hard-liners have zeroed in on clean energy tax credits as a prime target for elimination.


____________

40-026 Noatak - Harris: 19 19.19%, Trump: 66 66.67%

 

[StrangePackage]

Trump-voting parents "feel betrayed" after ICE agents detain their son

An Argentine American couple spoke out after their son, a green card holder, was detained and sent to a Georgia detention center.

www.newsweek.com

Gentile, a father of two, was stopped by officials in February after returning from a trip abroad and landing at Los Angeles International Airport. DHS officials confiscated his green card and Argentine passport and directed him to report to a Customs and Border Protection (CBP) office in Raleigh, North Carolina, where he lives. Officials there detained him and sent him to a local county jail. He was then transferred to Stewart Detention Center.

Gentile was convicted in 2020 of infliction of injury and sentenced to three years' probation, according to court records seen by The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The case was closed in 2023.

Sending oh noes and anyways

 

[ChileG]

Congress’s Fight Over Trump’s Agenda Runs Through Alaska

Republicans in Congress are clashing over whether to repeal Biden-era clean energy tax credits that are a lifeline for some of their constituents.

www.nytimes.com

Twice a month, planes land on the gravel airstrip in Noatak, Alaska, about 70 miles north of the Arctic Circle, carrying the diesel that residents need to heat their homes in the bitter cold.

And once a month, they receive electricity bills four times higher than those for most of the rest of the country that include two separate charges: one for the cost of the energy itself, and another for the cost of the fuel used to fly it there.

“The fuel cost is the thing that kills,” Bessie Monroe, 56, who works as an assistant to the village’s tribal administrator, said as she pulled up her bill. Even though she supplements the heat from her generator with a wood-burning stove — and can still sometimes feel the chill of wind through one of her walls — Ms. Monroe has paid roughly $250 a month for electricity for her small one-bedroom house this winter.
So a few years ago, in an effort to build a local source of electricity and save residents money, the Inupiat village of 500 worked with its utility company to install a small farm of solar panels. And when Congress approved new tax credits for clean energy projects in 2022 through the Inflation Reduction Act, signed into law by President Joseph R. Biden Jr., the village saw an opportunity to buy more.

But the fate of the project — and dozens more like it in Alaska and around the country — is now in doubt, leaving villagers unsure of their financial future.

Those doubts are at the root of an intraparty feud unfolding among Republicans in Washington, where G.O.P. members of Congress are casting about for ways to pay for President Trump’s domestic agenda. Some fiscal hard-liners have zeroed in on clean energy tax credits as a prime target for elimination.


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40-026 Noatak - Harris: 19 19.19%, Trump: 66 66.67%

Wanting to go backwards on energy and giving to China and other countries the gift of being the leaders in energy technology for the next century seems kind of…stupid.

 

[4thgenheel]

Sending oh noes and anyways

these people are all as dumb as a bag of hammers. all of this shit was telegraphed months in advance. the piles of stories about trump voters with non-citizen family/friends, etc. that are being targeted....enjoy what you created, you stupid fucks.

 

[gregh1]

Gawd i love this thread. I feel a little bad for the ignorant non-voters, the 1/3 of all eligible who are too dismayed with politics to vote at all. But these voters - F 'em.

 

[UNCatTech]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/teslas-uk-sales-lowest-over-083516364.html

A co-worker has a tesla.
He has a bumper sticker that reads FELON. Or at least that's what we thought it read. We asked about it, he smiled and said, "There is a space between the F and the E".

 

[UNCatTech]

Gawd i love this thread. I feel a little bad for the ignorant non-voters, the 1/3 of all eligible who are too dismayed with politics to vote at all. But these voters - F 'em.

I feel bad for the uninformed voters who were taken advantage of. Those working 2 or 3 jobs that don't have much time to read about the candidates or were mislead by their church (my father in law).

I don't feel bad for the Ramrousers of the world that actually listened and knew trump was planning this shit and voted for him. Those who actually want what is happening.

 

[Ramrouser]

I feel bad for the uninformed voters who were taken advantage of. Those working 2 or 3 jobs that don't have much time to read about the candidates or were mislead by their church (my father in law).

I don't feel bad for the Ramrousers of the world that actually listened and knew trump was planning this shit and voted for him. Those who actually want what is happening.

Lovin’ every second of the Golden Age. Heading to my beach house tomorrow for a CLE conference at Amelia Island. Peace.

 

[Centerpiece]

I feel bad for the uninformed voters who were taken advantage of. Those working 2 or 3 jobs that don't have much time to read about the candidates or were mislead by their church (my father in law).

I don't feel bad for the Ramrousers of the world that actually listened and knew trump was planning this shit and voted for him. Those who actually want what is happening.

I hear ya… but I don’t feel bad for the uninformed either. I don’t care how many hours they work. Not paying attention, following blindly their church leaders or the faux news channel they watch on what little free time they have. Now they’re finding out. It’s too late. They should have “found out” first and voted as an informed individual. But no. They fucked around and now they can find out. We paid attention but we still have to eat the same shit sandwich. The fact that somebody else who didn’t pay attention and voted for the shit sandwich can eat it too without me feeling sorry for them. No disrespect to you or your FIL, but I’m not going to feel sorry for anybody who actually voted for this shit.

That’s what this entire thread is about. They fucked around and now they’re finding out.

 

[gregh1]

She also needs to do what Margaret Thatcher did with her voice - learn to speak in lower tones AND absolutely no high-pitched laughter.

hmmm, is laughter allowed for political women? An anti-cackle laugh?