Fascist moves by the Feds Catch All

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BlooVooDoo said:
Under what circumstances? I mean, are there limits to this “legal permission?”
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Of course, but we don't know nearly enough about the situation in the video to know if a limit was crossed. All we have is a video of an adult being detained by some type of law enforcement along with all kinds of assumptions that get people all fired up about it.
 
ZenMode said:
Police can't drag people out of cars?

Police can't force people to the ground when they are resisting? It's not like she was slammed....

If not, what should police have done?
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It didn't look like she was resisting. ICE didn't wait to see if she voluntarily stepped out of the car, they just opened the door and dragged her out. She's a US citizen btw.

www.cbsnews.com

Parents of teen tossed to ground, detained by apparent federal agent demand answers

The incident captured on video shows the teen girl getting pulled out of the passenger seat. She is then thrown to the ground, all while saying she is not resisting arrest.
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Bobfripp said:
It didn't look like she was resisting. ICE didn't wait to see if she voluntarily stepped out of the car, they just opened the door and dragged her out. She's a US citizen btw.

www.cbsnews.com

Parents of teen tossed to ground, detained by apparent federal agent demand answers

The incident captured on video shows the teen girl getting pulled out of the passenger seat. She is then thrown to the ground, all while saying she is not resisting arrest.
www.cbsnews.com www.cbsnews.com
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She was "saying" she wasn't resisting, as she was not voluntarily going down to the ground. She was also saying she's 15.

She also wasn't slammed to the ground in any way, shape for form.
 
I posted “just doing their jobs” in response to so many different situations I’m glad we found one instance where it might not be fascist tactics at play.
Except we still don’t know who was detaining her. We have video but nobody can tell who is actually apprehending her? Isn’t that a major issue?
Anyway, we have how many instances of US Citizens being unlawfully detained? Almost 200? I really don’t give a shit that there MAY be a case where one person was rightfully and appropriately arrested. That doesn’t even put a dent into the massive problems with ICE and Trump’s growing secret police force.
 
4thgenheel said:
jfc. the way she was violently manhandled by someone 2x+ her size.
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Obviously the LEO can't help that he's bigger than her. There was no violence. She wasn't "yanked" out of the car. She wasn't "slammed" to the ground. He pulled her out of the car, they spun in two circles, while she lied about being 15 and not resisting, and then he eventually got her to go down in the grass. :rolleyes:
 
ZenMode said:
Obviously the LEO can't help that he's bigger than her. There was no violence. She wasn't "yanked" out of the car. She wasn't "slammed" to the ground. He pulled her out of the car, they spun in two circles, while she lied about being 15 and not resisting, and then he eventually got her to go down in the grass. :rolleyes:
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yikes yikes YIKES that you think that wasn't violent. i feel for any women and children who have to be around you.

and there was no resistance. wtf are you even talking about with that? your judgment here is clearly really, really compromised.
 
ZenMode said:
Obviously the LEO can't help that he's bigger than her. There was no violence. She wasn't "yanked" out of the car. She wasn't "slammed" to the ground. He pulled her out of the car, they spun in two circles, while she lied about being 15 and not resisting, and then he eventually got her to go down in the grass. :rolleyes:
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We could not hear the audio over the narration and don’t know if he told her to get out, but it didn’t look like she was given any real opportunity to step out of the car on her own. He immediately went to the door, blocked her egress and physically pulled her out. I’ll cede that “thrown to the ground” implies a level of force that is subject to opinion but rather than put her upright against the car to cuff her he forced her onto the ground and put a knee on her back. He weighs at least twice what she does. It was clearly excessive. Not to the extent of causing injury, but more force than was necessary.

If the officers were at all concerned about their safety they would have had guns drawn. This looks a bit like
south park thq GIF
 
ZenMode said:
Like I said earlier, unless I missed it, we don't know why she was arrested. I looked around online and couldn't find any details.
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Me, neither.
She claims she and the others arrested were never told why they were arrested. They were let go with no explanation.
So, when you defend these actions as police just doing police work, I don’t think that is correct. They are making illegal arrests again and again. When you defend that, that is probably where the boot-licking accusations come from.
I know you support Trump in some ways and find him abhorrent in other ways. My feeling is collectively all of these actions by ICE and Trump building up a police force that seems to have no accountability to anyone belongs in the “abhorrent” column and it isn’t even a close decision. Maybe even the most abhorrent.
Of course, opinions differ on this and everything else, especially when we are talking about politics and/or Trump.
 
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