FBI moves to criminalize Habitat for Humanity, other groups

[4thgenheel]

Certainly not. I can guess what happened. There were certain grants through the EPA that someone at Habitat's administrative offices applied for. Let's say it was solar panels on roofs or some sort of sustainable wood or whatever. The organization met some of the criteria but not all and whoever was filling out the form said close enough, no one will ever check. And then they signed it right below the section that said it's a federal crime to lie on this application.

And they were probably right for however many years they had been in that office but at some point there were some marching orders from Trump or Bondi or Patel or whoever to say make sure all these organizations cross the t's and dot the i's specifically on these green energy grants.

If that is what happened, is charging them right? I don't know. If it is what happened, they broke the law. They misappropriated taxpayer funds. But habitat for humanity does a heck of a lot of good. Some of these other organizations may or may not be grift shops but I hate to see habitat get caught up in it.

wtf is wrong with you?

nothing this admin or their FBI says should be given the benefit of the doubt. they're all proven liars and criminals.

it is much, much more likely that HFH, etc. didn't actually break the law.

they're being targeted because this admin doesn't like who they are and what they do.

 

[Batt Boy]

Certainly not. I can guess what happened. There were certain grants through the EPA that someone at Habitat's administrative offices applied for. Let's say it was solar panels on roofs or some sort of sustainable wood or whatever. The organization met some of the criteria but not all and whoever was filling out the form said close enough, no one will ever check. And then they signed it right below the section that said it's a federal crime to lie on this application.

And they were probably right for however many years they had been in that office but at some point there were some marching orders from Trump or Bondi or Patel or whoever to say make sure all these organizations cross the t's and dot the i's specifically on these green energy grants.

If that is what happened, is charging them right? I don't know. If it is what happened, they broke the law. They misappropriated taxpayer funds. But habitat for humanity does a heck of a lot of good. Some of these other organizations may or may not be grift shops but I hate to see habitat get caught up in it.

you are more and more of a clown with every post

 

[Carolina Fever]

GT and Zen are insufferable and just as absurd as the outright MAGA folks.

 

[ChapelHillSooner]

Wonder if I will be targeted or if my military pension is vulnerable because my wife and I have volunteered on numerous HFH builds the past 20 years through church?

My girlfriend got a habitat home. (Crazy that she has a UNC degree and works for UNC but still qualifies.)

I helped her get her hours in. Probably did about 100 hours in the last year.

Oh, also, every one of the houses I worked on have solar panels.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

wtf is wrong with you?

nothing this admin or their FBI says should be given the benefit of the doubt. they're all proven liars and criminals.

it is much, much more likely that HFH, etc. didn't actually break the law.

they're being targeted because this admin doesn't like who they are and what they do.

I get that they're against the Green programs but do you really think maga is against habitat for humanity? Could you imagine how many maga people volunteer for that organization?

 

[Batt Boy]

I get that they're against the Green programs but do you really think maga is against habitat for humanity? Could you imagine how many maga people volunteer for that organization?

Why would I think it? They are against bike lanes. They are against sidewalks. They are against safe streets. They are against solar energy. They are against wind energy. They are against public transportation. They are against vaccines. They are against libraries. They are against public education. They are against universal health care. Why would I think it?

 

[superrific]

Why would I think it? They are against bike lanes. They are against sidewalks. They are against safe streets. They are against solar energy. They are against wind energy. They are against public transportation. They are against vaccines. They are against libraries. They are against public education. They are against universal health care. Why would I think it?

Strong post.

 

[breepf]

Why would I think it? They are against bike lanes. They are against sidewalks. They are against safe streets. They are against solar energy. They are against wind energy. They are against public transportation. They are against vaccines. They are against libraries. They are against public education. They are against universal health care. Why would I think it?

To the extent that MAGA is fundamentalist Christian, it is a premillenialist movement that is actively against a better world.

 

[mpaer]

My girlfriend got a habitat home. (Crazy that she has a UNC degree and works for UNC but still qualifies.)

I helped her get her hours in. Probably did about 100 hours in the last year.

Oh, also, every one of the houses I worked on have solar panels.

Maybe you are a criminal now to orangeturd ?

 

[BlooVooDoo]

Why would I think it? They are against bike lanes. They are against sidewalks. They are against safe streets. They are against solar energy. They are against wind energy. They are against public transportation. They are against vaccines. They are against libraries. They are against public education. They are against universal health care. Why would I think it?

 

[Carolina Fever]

The only thing Trump is for is whatever gets him more money. Musk is the same way.

 

[tarheelbillie]

The only thing Trump is for is whatever gets him more money. Musk is the same way.

Again! The GOP has a single-item agenda…wick wealth upward. They no longer want the lion’s share… they want it all.

 

[UNCBAdookJD]

I get that they're against the Green programs but do you really think maga is against habitat for humanity? Could you imagine how many maga people volunteer for that organization?

Most are selfish pricks, and Jimmy Carter was famously the face of it, so I doubt very many MAGAts at all do anything for HFH.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

Why would I think it? They are against bike lanes. They are against sidewalks. They are against safe streets. They are against solar energy. They are against wind energy. They are against public transportation. They are against vaccines. They are against libraries. They are against public education. They are against universal health care. Why would I think it?

I just think that to most Republicans a charity providing services for people is much different than government providing services to people.
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[sringwal]

I just think that to most Republicans a charity providing services for people is much different than government providing services to people.
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And, yet, here we are.

 

[sringwal]

My bet? Habitat for Humanity was a part of Jimmy Carter's Legacy. He is dismantling anything that his enemies (real, or perceived) valued, including the works of former presidents.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

Most are selfish pricks, and Jimmy Carter was famously the face of it, so I doubt very many MAGAts at all do anything for HFH.

That really hasn't been my experience in real life interactions with Republicans but certainly everyone has different experiences.

 

[wmheel1287]

That really hasn't been my experience in real life interactions with Republicans but certainly everyone has different experiences.

We've already established that you do not have experiences that reflect the reality any of the rest of us do.

 

[Carolina Fever]

That really hasn't been my experience in real life interactions with Republicans but certainly everyone has different experiences.

 

[gtyellowjacket]

We've already established that you do not have experiences that reflect the reality any of the rest of us do.

I'm not sure if reality and some of you necessarily go together. Remember when we had those threads about maga family members going off the deep end and talking about the deep state and Q-Anon were real things? I think a few folks on here are the other side of that coin.