General 2028 Presidential Election - Pete "Bearded" Buttigieg

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WaynetheDrain said:
I’ll accept that with the caveat that bigotry doesn’t need to be qualified. Religious bigotry is just bigotry.
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Correct.

Also, many homophobic bigots try to hide their bigotry with sayings such as “Love the sinner, hate the sin.”

The homophobic bigots say the Bible tells them homosexuality is a sin and wrong…….then they tell us they have a gay or lesbian or bi or trans friend……even better, one of each.
 
We are such an irredeemably stupid country if Pete Buttigieg is unelectable solely because of his sexual orientation. He’s unbelievably intelligent, incredibly thoughtful, compassionate, and exceptionally well versed in policy but just as easily able to articulate it to the common folk.
 
CFordUNC said:
We are such an irredeemably stupid country if Pete Buttigieg is unelectable solely because of his sexual orientation. He’s unbelievably intelligent, incredibly thoughtful, compassionate, and exceptionally well versed in policy but just as easily able to articulate it to the common folk.
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We are 100% a stupid country already. November 2024 just cemented it.
 
ZenMode said:
Nope. Religious bigotry is extra dumb because it's based on fairytales.
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Not even. It is based on mistranslations and lack of context, coupled with thousands of years of doctrine further distorting the original language.
 
Bottom line is we can't do shit if we don't get elected so I don't want any candidate in the race running from 50 yards behind the starting line. It's not worth it to increase the chance of a republican getting elected and then doing shit like destroying years of DEI in two weeks. We have to have a candidate that can get at least some votes from middle America and he ain't the one.
 
CFordUNC said:
We are such an irredeemably stupid country if Pete Buttigieg is unelectable solely because of his sexual orientation. He’s unbelievably intelligent, incredibly thoughtful, compassionate, and exceptionally well versed in policy but just as easily able to articulate it to the common folk.
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Unfortunately, that's where we are as a nation.
 
I don’t think it’s Pete’s sexuality that makes him unviable as a Democratic presidential candidate in this moment. What is he offering that is different than the party’s most recent standard bearers?
 
Paine said:
I don’t think it’s Pete’s sexuality that makes him unviable as a Democratic presidential candidate in this moment. What is he offering that is different than the party’s most recent standard bearers?
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I think both are a major problem that further exaggerate the other. It will be very easy to paint him as a raging far left liberal whether he really is or not.
 
Pete is fine and smart but ultimately unelectable. His sexuality is part of that but it could be overcome by a truly dynamic personality. Pete's biggest issue is that he's white, white, WHITE. We didn't learn the lesson of Bill Clinton and Barrack Obama. Run someone with some fucking rizz.

If the Democratic candidate isn't a Kendrick Lamar listening shit talking relatable cool fucking dude, we will get our asses kicked again.

It's ALL about personality. And ultimately it won't matter if that dude sucks dick or not...what will matter is how much swag he's got. That's how Democrats win in this environment.
 
LosPollosHermanos said:
I think both are a major problem that further exaggerate the other.
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Now that strikes me as more true. Youth or queerness alone don’t make a candidate transformative if their policies and politics remain fundamentally conservative on economic and class terms.
 
Paine said:
I don’t think it’s Pete’s sexuality that makes him unviable as a Democratic presidential candidate in this moment. What is he offering that is different than the party’s most recent standard bearers?
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Compared to 2016 and 2024, he’s male.

For many, he passes the “I’d have a beer with him” test (Hillary and Kamala and Al Gore failed that test; shit, Gore lost the “beer” test to a guy who no longer drank).

Mayor Pete’s highly articulate and easy on the ears. Things Hillary nor Biden nor Kamala are.

Few Presidential elections are won or lost on policy platforms.
 
Zoo_View said:
Compared to 2016 and 2024, he’s male.

For many, he passes the “I’d have a beer with him” test (Hillary and Kamala and Al Gore failed that test; shit, Gore lost the “beer” test to a guy who no longer drank).

Mayor Pete’s highly articulate and easy on the ears. Things Hillary nor Biden nor Kamala are.

Few Presidential elections are won or lost on policy platforms.
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There’s some truth here. Elections are about narratives as much as policies, but ignoring policy or treating it as secondary lets the party keep recycling technocrats who don’t inspire or address systemic issues. The points you touch on are just style. That’s a big reason Democrats keep losing.

In the long term, the left can only beat back the right by marrying a bold economic agenda with authentic cultural connection. They have to show that they’re both someone people can trust someone who will fight for them.

If you think Buttigieg is on the beer track, I don’t think you’re very well connected with the type of person this political shorthand is supposed to represent.
 
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Paine said:
There’s some truth here. Elections are about narratives as much as policies, but ignoring policy or treating it as secondary lets the party keep recycling technocrats who don’t inspire or address systemic issues. The points you touch on are just style. That’s a big reason Democrats keep losing.

In the long term, the left can only beat back the right by marrying a bold economic agenda with authentic cultural connection. They have to show that they’re both someone people can trust someone who will fight for them.

If you think Buttigieg is on the beer track, I don’t think you’re very well connected with the type of person this political shorthand is supposed to represent.
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Most of my comment about the “beer test” was facetious.

“I’d like to have a beer with him” is often said by a male who is likely Republican-leaning, if not MAGA. It’s said about a Dubya or Trump (oddly, two people who don’t drink). It’s never said about a woman or Liberal.

Pete’s biggest negative as a Presidential candidate is, as wmheel said, that he’s white bread as hell. I hope he runs for and wins a Senate seat and holds it for 30+ years.
 
Zoo_View said:
Most of my comment about the “beer test” was facetious.

“I’d like to have a beer with him” is often said by a male who is likely Republican-leaning, if not MAGA. It’s said about a Dubya or Trump (oddly, two people who don’t drink). It’s never said about a woman or Liberal.

Pete’s biggest negative as a Presidential candidate is, as wmheel said, that he’s white bread as hell. I hope he runs for and wins a Senate seat and holds it for 30+ years.
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White bread and McKinsey robot behavior. I think there have been plenty of liberal beer track candidates. Tim Walz, Sherrod Brown, and Jon Tester more recently. It’s about attitude and disposition as well as authenticity through policy commitments.
 
GuyFree said:
Please put Walz/AOC/Crockett/Jeffries at the top of the ticket in 2028.

The fact that the left doesn't know or wants to accept why they lost the election is telling.

Again... you guys are WAY smarter than everyone in this world. Keep going.

You won't win the mid-terms in 2026.
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Dear God man, have a little self respect. The small dick energy you're giving off here as you desperately misbehave for attention would be pitiable if you weren't a grown ass man who should know better.
 
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