Going after Greenland | Trump mad king letter

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Callatoroy said:
If you hate trump, and most on this board do (I understand why), it’s easy to dismiss his assertion that the US must have Greenland because it’s vital to our national security as bombastic rants and bullying. His (and more so his bitch miller’s chest puffing bully talk) inability to articulate his points and policy in an unoffensive manner obscures any chance of consideration from most who oppose him because he revels in being an asshole and seems to take it to new heights over every issue. That’s trump. But that doesn’t make his claim about Greenland being vital to our national security wrong. To disagree out of hate is naive and juvenile. This is a pretty good article and does a good job of laying out the issues in play and the obstacles that must be overcome in some manner to secure a part of our national security. I don’t expect some posters to have any meaningful comments or good faith dialogue but I’m hopeful some will offer their views outside of their personal dislike for trump. Do you view it as vital for national security? Do you see china’s inroads as a concern? Etc.

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The point is not "hating" this guy. The key points (I think) are:
1. This guy is completely dishonest. Historically so. It would be insane to believe anything he says.
2. I imagine that history will judge that he has being even more corrupt than we now believe. It is reasonable to believe that this adventure in Greenland is intended to earn Trump and his family corrupt money.
3. He has surrounded himself with dishonest, incompetent, people. I do not think that there exists a single cabinet officer or advisor who has the intelligence or integrity to tell him he is wrong
4.Certainly he has done terrible harm to our role in global affairs. He will be gone fairly soon, but the damage he has done is huge.
In sum, we should not trust these people to do anything good and ethical, or even legal.
 
www.theguardian.com

Trump ‘crossing red lines’ says Belgian PM after US president warns ‘there can be no going back’ on Greenland – Europe live

Belgium’s PM says Europe is ‘at a crossroads’ and 80 years of Atlanticism could be drawing to a close
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

It seems like the US president, Donald Trump, has had a busy evening US time with his phone in his hand.

Overnight, he:

  • Attacked the UK, mockingly calling it a “brilliant” ally, for “shocking” plan to hand over sovereignity of the Chagos islands to Mauritius (despite previous US support), saying it’s among a “long line” of reasons why Greenland “has to be acquired”
  • Leaked private text messages from France’s Emmanuel Macron and Nato’s Mark Rutte discussing his latest policy moves
  • Threatened France with 200% tariffs on French wine and champagne over Macron’s refusal to join the Gaza “board of peace”, said of Macron that “nobody wants him because he’s going to be out of office very soon”
  • Reiterated his intention of taking over Greenland as “imperative for national and world security,” saying “there can be no going back”
  • Posted an AI generated visual of himself planting the US flag on Greenland, saying it’s “US territory, est. 2026,” days after the US delegation agreed with Danish foreign minister for talks to be conducted behind closed doors, and not through threatening messages on social media.
 
Sobering read from Heather Cox Richardson 😐

https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.com/p/january-19-2026

“We are watching one of the wildest things a nation-state has ever done,” journalist Garrett Graff wrote: “A superpower is [dying by] suicide because the [Republican] Congress is too cowardly to stand up to the Mad King. This is one of the wildest moments in all of geopolitics ever.”
 
I once again reiterate that in both Canada and the UK people largely look at the US in a combination of pity and rage these days.

I think the US is rapidly transforming from annoying pain we have to deal with to gangrenous limb we need to sever. Sadly that limb has nukes and a madman with the button.
 
Willy said:
Less than I expected. I'm going to rebalance this morning and get down to 50% equities.
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No worries, everything is fine apparently.

Reaction of global financial markets to Greenland crisis so far 'more muted' than feared, Bank of England boss tells MPs​

Andrew Bailey, the governor of the Bank of England, has said that the reaction of the global financial markets to the Greenland crisis has so far been “more muted” than he feared. But the Bank is still “very alert” to the risks it poses.

Giving evidence to the Commons Treasury committee this morning, Bailey said:

The level of geopolitical uncertainty and geopolitical issues is a big consideration, because they can have financial stability consequences.

Let me put that in a bit of context in two respects. One, having said that, growth in the world economy was a lot more stable than we thought it would be.

The second point is about financial markets and is a fairly similar point, that we worry considerably about how markets react to those things.

Market reactions have actually been more muted than we would have feared and expected.

Overriding those points, I take neither of those as a point of assurance. We have to be very alert to these things.
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www.theguardian.com

Trump ‘crossing red lines’ says Belgian PM after US president warns ‘there can be no going back’ on Greenland – Europe live

Belgium’s PM says Europe is ‘at a crossroads’ and 80 years of Atlanticism could be drawing to a close
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
Belgium’s Bart De Wever is up next, as he gets asked about the relations with the US and Trump’s behaviour.

He doesn’t mince his words at all.

He says that “Europe is at a crossroads” and it has to decide what it’s policy will be.

He continues:

“Until now, we tried to appease the new president in the White House. We were very lenient, also with the tariffs. We were lenient hoping to get his support for the Ukraine war. … But now so many red lines are being crossed that you have the choice between your self-respect. Being a happy vassal is one thing. Being a miserable slave is something else.

If you back down now you’re going to lose your dignity. And that’s probably the most precious thing you can have in a democracy.”
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He says he will meet with Trump on Wednesday, accompanied by the Belgian monarch Philippe.

“But it will have a different character than we had planned.

It will probably be the message that we have to send: you’re crossing red lines here.

We either stand together or we will stand divided, and if we are divided, there is the end of an era, of 80 years of atlanticism, really drawing to a close.

And you know, as Gramsci said, ‘if the old is dying and the new is not yet born, you live in a time of monsters,’ and it’s up to him to decide if he wants to be a monster – yes or no.”
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altmin said:
www.theguardian.com

Trump ‘crossing red lines’ says Belgian PM after US president warns ‘there can be no going back’ on Greenland – Europe live

Belgium’s PM says Europe is ‘at a crossroads’ and 80 years of Atlanticism could be drawing to a close
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

It seems like the US president, Donald Trump, has had a busy evening US time with his phone in his hand.

Overnight, he:

  • Attacked the UK, mockingly calling it a “brilliant” ally, for “shocking” plan to hand over sovereignity of the Chagos islands to Mauritius (despite previous US support), saying it’s among a “long line” of reasons why Greenland “has to be acquired”
  • Leaked private text messages from France’s Emmanuel Macron and Nato’s Mark Rutte discussing his latest policy moves
  • Threatened France with 200% tariffs on French wine and champagne over Macron’s refusal to join the Gaza “board of peace”, said of Macron that “nobody wants him because he’s going to be out of office very soon”
  • Reiterated his intention of taking over Greenland as “imperative for national and world security,” saying “there can be no going back”
  • Posted an AI generated visual of himself planting the US flag on Greenland, saying it’s “US territory, est. 2026,” days after the US delegation agreed with Danish foreign minister for talks to be conducted behind closed doors, and not through threatening messages on social media.
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Where is this specific content originally posted (or is it your synopsis @altmin)?
 
donbosco said:
Where is this specific content originally posted (or is it your synopsis @altmin)?
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It's the Greenland news feed from the Guardian. The board autoformats the link, but maybe not for everyone? The summary I pasted in that quoted link was their first post, but i think they change that up as the day goes on.

www.theguardian.com

Trump ‘crossing red lines’ says Belgian PM after US president warns ‘there can be no going back’ on Greenland – Europe live

Belgium’s PM says Europe is ‘at a crossroads’ and 80 years of Atlanticism could be drawing to a close
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com

I will post it as well without the beginning so you can copy and paste the important bits

theguardian.com/world/live/2026/jan/20/europe-greenland-donald-trump-davos-europe-live-latest-updates
 


TRUMP: I don't care about the Nobel Prize. First of all, a very fine woman felt that I deserved it and really wanted me to have the Nobel Prize, and I appreciate that. If anybody thinks that Norway doesn't control the Nobel Prize, they are just kidding.
 
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