Good faith privately-funded White House ballroom discussion

Callatoroy said:
He isn’t a conformist that’s for sure
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Not being "a conformist" is entirely different than "not following protocol." One can be a nonconformist while still working within the law. A person can challenge prevailing opinions, innovate within constraints, and resist social pressure while still respecting legal and procedural boundaries. Ignoring protocol isn’t inherently principled; it can be careless, disruptive, or, in some contexts, dangerous. Treating nonconformity as the same thing as breaking rules flattens both ideas. Push boundaries, yes. But respect the structure of the rules and laws that built this country.
 
sringwal said:
Not being "a conformist" is entirely different than "not following protocol." One can be a nonconformist while still working within the law. A person can challenge prevailing opinions, innovate within constraints, and resist social pressure while still respecting legal and procedural boundaries. Ignoring protocol isn’t inherently principled; it can be careless, disruptive, or, in some contexts, dangerous. Treating nonconformity as the same thing as breaking rules flattens both ideas. Push boundaries, yes. But respect the structure of the rules and laws that built this country.
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That line about nonconformity was a huge self-own. One cannot respect a person who thinks following the law is about conformity. It says a lot about the poster.

Wasn't there a guy on the old board who was exceedingly proud of his tax evasion? Maybe he was just being nonconformist. Was that calla?
 
Do we even know what fund the private donations are being deposited into? Who is controlling the fund? It seems highly likely that despite private donations the tax payer will end up footing the bill and the private donations will end up in someone else's pocket. Do we know where the Venezeulan oil money is?
 
Callatoroy said:
Assumptions. All of it? Ask me what I oppose with specificity. Im not a blanket supporter or opposer. The level of hate you convey can’t be defined any other way. Try to go 24 hours discussing a political topic without discussing trump. Bet you cant do it.
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That's a stupid premis. Discuss political topics and leave out the president, who happens to involve himself in every political topic currently. That not realistic.
 
Emerson wrote, of nonconformity: "Whoso would be a man, must be a nonconformist. He who would gather immortal palms must not be hindered by the name of goodness, but must explore it if it be goodness. Nothing is at last sacred but the integrity of your own mind. Absolve you to yourself, and you shall have the suffrage of the world.” That is not how I, personally, read Trump nor his actions/goals.
 
bassydude77 said:
Do we even know what fund the private donations are being deposited into? Who is controlling the fund? It seems highly likely that despite private donations the tax payer will end up footing the bill and the private donations will end up in someone else's pocket. Do we know where the Venezeulan oil money is?
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trump created a trump library fund, and $63,000,000 was deposited into the fund. ABC, X, Meta, and Paramount all contributed. The fund was dissolved last September, and no one has disclosed where the money went. His second term isn't about governing or solving the country's problems. HIS primary purposes are vengeance and grifting.
 
Callatoroy said:
He isn’t a conformist that’s for sure
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We know he's narcissists and want everything to have his name on it.

He forgets this is the president of the US, not ceo of his company. The president has more responsibility than just entertain.
 
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