GOP slouches into the crazy to be born as MAGA ~ GENERAL

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nycfan said:
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“… Bishop Budde’s exhortation was a clear example of the man-eating weed of Humanistic Mercy, untethered from what is true and good. And it was enabled by the feminist denial of the complementary design and callings of men and women.

For, while God has designed women to be life-givers, he has designated men as guardians and protectors.

Men are called to set the perimeter, establish boundaries, and build walls and defend them. Therefore, God has given them greater strength and a mindset that draws clear lines and polices them for threats.

And this is true not only of physical threats but spiritual ones as well. The Levites were commissioned as the priestly tribe in Israel because of their willingness to slay their idolatrous brethren after the incident with the golden calf (Exodus 32). Likewise, Phinehas was given a perpetual priesthood for driving a spear through an Israelite who was flagrantly violating the law of God through intermarriage with pagans (Numbers 25).

In both cases, zeal for God’s holiness and the protection of God’s people drove the priests to eschew pity and guard the perimeter.

All of these considerations lie behind the Biblical prohibition on women teaching and exercising authority in the Church (1 Timothy 2:12–13).

Rather than attempting to usurp and undermine masculine authority in God’s household, Paul encourages women to learn in quietness and submission. Elsewhere, he says that “women should keep silent in the churches … for it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” In context, it’s clear that Paul is not referring to simple conversations after the service but public speech in the assembly, the kind that Bishop(ess) Budde delivered on Tuesday.

Instead, God appoints qualified men to guard the doctrine and worship of the Church for the glory of God and the good of His people. In other words, Budde’s exhortation reminds us that we must reject feminism and all its works and all its ways. …”
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Mulberry Heel said:
Southern Baptists certainly do - it was one of the most popular topics I heard in church growing up. You'd occasionally hear something about the Sermon on the Mount, but the Rapture and Second Coming and the horrible tortures God would inflict on unbelievers when the Anti-Christ took over were far more popular.
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They love some doom and gloom and a little retribution...
 
nycfan said:
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“… Bishop Budde’s exhortation was a clear example of the man-eating weed of Humanistic Mercy, untethered from what is true and good. And it was enabled by the feminist denial of the complementary design and callings of men and women.

For, while God has designed women to be life-givers, he has designated men as guardians and protectors.

Men are called to set the perimeter, establish boundaries, and build walls and defend them. Therefore, God has given them greater strength and a mindset that draws clear lines and polices them for threats.

And this is true not only of physical threats but spiritual ones as well. The Levites were commissioned as the priestly tribe in Israel because of their willingness to slay their idolatrous brethren after the incident with the golden calf (Exodus 32). Likewise, Phinehas was given a perpetual priesthood for driving a spear through an Israelite who was flagrantly violating the law of God through intermarriage with pagans (Numbers 25).

In both cases, zeal for God’s holiness and the protection of God’s people drove the priests to eschew pity and guard the perimeter.

All of these considerations lie behind the Biblical prohibition on women teaching and exercising authority in the Church (1 Timothy 2:12–13).

Rather than attempting to usurp and undermine masculine authority in God’s household, Paul encourages women to learn in quietness and submission. Elsewhere, he says that “women should keep silent in the churches … for it is shameful for a woman to speak in church.” In context, it’s clear that Paul is not referring to simple conversations after the service but public speech in the assembly, the kind that Bishop(ess) Budde delivered on Tuesday.

Instead, God appoints qualified men to guard the doctrine and worship of the Church for the glory of God and the good of His people. In other words, Budde’s exhortation reminds us that we must reject feminism and all its works and all its ways. …”
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Overlapping with another thread, I'm not saying that Trump is the Anti-Christ, but Trump and his folks certainly do a great job of being against everything important that Christ taught about.

It's also amusing that this "Christian" defense of Trump does so by quoting everyone but Jesus and the Gospels. It's indicative how American Evangelicalism is a religious movement that has had to largely sideline Jesus in order to support its version of Christianity.
 
UNCatTech said:
Someone help me understand. How can one have misapplied empathy?
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When it keeps you from hating the people you believe you're supposed to hate.

To make it more "Christian", it'd be when it keeps you from "hating the sin" while still "loving the sinner". The problem we both recognize that folks attempting to practice that maxim almost always end up throwing the sinner out with the sin.
 
Budde’s a typical, modern Episcopal Bishop. I’m Episcopalian, but this liberal wokeness is killing the Church. Friends of mine are leaving in droves. I stay for the beauty and formality of the service.
 
Ramrouser said:
Budde’s a typical, modern Episcopal Bishop. I’m Episcopalian, but this liberal wokeness is killing the Church. Friends of mine are leaving in droves. I stay for the beauty and formality of the service.
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I'll not go here into things of which we have no actual evidence but just "feel" and believe. That being said, there was absolutely nothing wrong with what she said. That's what Christ himself would have said, according to the gospels.

As Mulberry stated earlier, I too grew up in the church. Somewhere in my early 20s, I saw the fact that we were all just being conditioned for moments exactly like this.

Make no mistake: you'd be one of the worst among us, when the time comes. You can rationalize it however you want, but you're exactly that person.
 
Ramrouser said:
Budde’s a typical, modern Episcopal Bishop. I’m Episcopalian, but this liberal wokeness is killing the Church. Friends of mine are leaving in droves. I stay for the beauty and formality of the service.
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Those leaving are mostly against Gay Marriage GO away all of you hypocrites-maybe another bunch of Gray Suits leaving the church Bye Ya'll
 
Mulberry Heel said:
Southern Baptists certainly do - it was one of the most popular topics I heard in church growing up. You'd occasionally hear something about the Sermon on the Mount, but the Rapture and Second Coming and the horrible tortures God would inflict on unbelievers when the Anti-Christ took over were far more popular.
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I too grew up Southern Baptist.

Two main reasons I became an atheist:
1. I actually read things beyond the Bible (which, apparently, most of them haven't read other than maybe the Old Testament parts that "fit" along with Revelations, as you state).
2. I looked around and saw what they were all about. Not true love. Just a "clique" to provide a hammer.

I've told my family for years now that those people are ripe for fascism. They've been conditioned for it from the wealthy who control their sermons.

They'd be the regular Germans, who just looked away, at best. They'd be on the frontline, switching on the gas, at worst.

We can talk elsewhere about the nature of Abrahamic religions, but this is a fact.
 
mpaer said:
Those leaving are mostly against Gay Marriage GO away all of you hypocrites-maybe another bunch of Gray Suits leaving the church Bye Ya'll
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People aren't leaving the church because of liberalism - in fact it's just the opposite. They're leaving because the Religious Right has politicized churches to the point that Christianity is increasingly seen (especially by younger generations) as nothing but a political arm of the Republican Party. And who can blame them? I've heard a good number of church members over the years tell me that they don't believe that you can be a Christian and a Democrat. That's not exactly conducive to recruiting new members. Church leaders are literally killing their own golden goose with all the politics, but given the short-term thinking and greed and massive amounts of money and influence they're rolling in they likely don't care.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
People aren't leaving the church because of liberalism - in fact it's just the opposite. They're leaving because the Religious Right has politicized churches to the point that Christianity is increasingly seen (especially by younger generations) as nothing but a political arm of the Republican Party. And who can blame them? I've heard a good number of church members over the years tell me that they don't believe that you can be a Christian and a Democrat. That's not exactly conducive to recruiting new members. Church leaders are literally killing their own golden goose with all the politics, but given the short-term thinking and greed and massive amounts of money and influence they're rolling in they likely don't care.
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Won't argue-but the Gay Marriage issue was the one that got the USA Episcopal Church basically separated from the World Episcopal Church
 
mpaer said:
Won't argue-but the Gay Marriage issue was the one that got the USA Episcopal Church basically separated from the World Episcopal Church
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But that's just one denomination, and it doesn't explain what has been driving down the numbers in conservative churches like the Southern Baptists. No doubt the gay marriage controversy has led to churches splitting, but I don't think that's what has been driving down their numbers and leading to people just quitting the church in the kinds of numbers of we've been seeing over the past forty to fifty years. I do think much of it is that we're just becoming a more secular society and the church is no longer seen or viewed as a positive moral or stabilizing or community force that it once was, at least partly because of endless scandals including child abuse and sexual abuse and mostly the politics I mentioned.
 
Mulberry Heel said:
But that's just one denomination, and it doesn't explain what has been driving down the numbers in conservative churches like the Southern Baptists. No doubt the gay marriage controversy has led to churches splitting, but I don't think that's what has been driving down their numbers and leading to people just quitting the church in the kinds of numbers of we've been seeing over the past forty to fifty years. I do think much of it is that we're just becoming a more secular society and the church is no longer seen or viewed as a positive moral or stabilizing or community force that it once was, at least partly because of endless scandals including child abuse and sexual abuse and mostly the politics I mentioned.
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Don't disagree with you Just responding to Ramrouser's comments about Wokeness
 
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Oklahoma Senator Proposes Total Ban on Porn to 'Restore Moral Sanity'

Making, distributing, or consuming pornographic material could get you 10 years in jail.
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The porn ban is just one bill in a slate that Deevers says is “aimed at restoring moral sanity in Oklahoma.” That includes a law that would make it illegal for a person to order and use abortion pills, prohibit no-fault divorces, and offer $2,500 tax credits to people who opt into “covenant marriages” that can only be dissolved in cases of abuse, adultery, or abandonment. Deevers said the laws are designed to roll back the degeneracy of the “far-left” in the state, despite the fact Republicans have held all three branches of state government since 2010.
 
altmin said:
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Oklahoma Senator Proposes Total Ban on Porn to 'Restore Moral Sanity'

Making, distributing, or consuming pornographic material could get you 10 years in jail.
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The porn ban is just one bill in a slate that Deevers says is “aimed at restoring moral sanity in Oklahoma.” That includes a law that would make it illegal for a person to order and use abortion pills, prohibit no-fault divorces, and offer $2,500 tax credits to people who opt into “covenant marriages” that can only be dissolved in cases of abuse, adultery, or abandonment. Deevers said the laws are designed to roll back the degeneracy of the “far-left” in the state, despite the fact Republicans have held all three branches of state government since 2010.
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These people are insane.
 
altmin said:
gizmodo.com

Oklahoma Senator Proposes Total Ban on Porn to 'Restore Moral Sanity'

Making, distributing, or consuming pornographic material could get you 10 years in jail.
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The porn ban is just one bill in a slate that Deevers says is “aimed at restoring moral sanity in Oklahoma.” That includes a law that would make it illegal for a person to order and use abortion pills, prohibit no-fault divorces, and offer $2,500 tax credits to people who opt into “covenant marriages” that can only be dissolved in cases of abuse, adultery, or abandonment. Deevers said the laws are designed to roll back the degeneracy of the “far-left” in the state, despite the fact Republicans have held all three branches of state government since 2010.
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Oklahoma is quickly becoming the worst place to live in the country, if it isn't already.
 
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