Harris v. Trump Debate Thread | Trump DECLINES another debate (in ALL CAPS!)

His crazy is now out there for everyone to see; it was a peek into his rallies and "Truth" account. No one can hide behind ignorance. If they vote for him, they are knowingly voting for crazy. One the one hand, I think this makes it more likely Kamala will win. On the other hand, sadly, millions of Americans will knowingly vote for crazy. That is bad for our country.
Exactly. We saw the results of the iterating equation that is Trump's truth social incel world. The rest of the normies just saw it and said "what the hell?"
 
Watching the debate with my husband was a revelation — he is engaged in politics but so loathes Trump that he actively avoids most of the Trump speeches and social media I consume. I sort of made him let me explain the pet eating back-story ahead of the debate because (a) my husband is the one who first read and got me to read the NYT story on Haitian migrants in Springfield Ohio (before the pet-eating lies) and (b) I thought it HAD to come up somehow tonight, though I didn’t think Trump would dive into it so early or so directly. I more expected a wink and nod reference.

Anyway, to my husband a lot of what I would call standard Trump rally rabbit holes were eye-opening. My husband was laughing repeatedly at how insane Trump sounded and asking what Trump was even talking about.

Hopefully a lot of other normal people who don’t regularly consume Trump’s insanity had a similar experience tonight.
it sounds like your husband and i are similar.

i avoid him at all costs too and really only see content about him that you post on this board. pretty sure the last time i heard his voice was the first debate.

90% of the time when he was speaking last night i was laughing hysterically.

what a lunatic.
 

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Here are the quote from the one writer who thought trump won and they are glorious

Daniel McCarthy, editor of the periodical Modern Age By staking ground as the outsider candidate, Trump won. He emphasized his willingness to fire officials who performed badly, while Harris boasted about a long line of establishment Republicans who have endorsed her, including Dick Cheney. If Washington needs profound change, it won’t come from the vice president

McCarthy Winning the coin toss before the debate even began set up the most pivotal moment, which was Trump’s closing question for Harris, asking why she and the administration in which she serves haven’t already done the things she promises to do.

McCarthy Harris’s lectern was too short, accentuating how much smaller she is.
Does that guy post here under the handle ZooView?
 
The good news is that Kamala definitively won the debate. I don't think Trump social media whining about the moderators is getting much traction. Now, the question is will it really affect the opinions and votes of any voters? I guess we'll just have to see. It's always difficult to predict what an "undecided" voter would do because people who call themselves "undecided" tend to say absolutely incomprehensible things about what they liked, didn't like, or want to see from a candidate.
 
The good news is that Kamala definitively won the debate. I don't think Trump social media whining about the moderators is getting much traction. Now, the question is will it really affect the opinions and votes of any voters? I guess we'll just have to see. It's always difficult to predict what an "undecided" voter would do because people who call themselves "undecided" tend to say absolutely incomprehensible things about what they liked, didn't like, or want to see from a candidate.
the people whom it would affect were always voting for Trump. It might compel a lazy person who would have stayed home to go out and vote for revenge or something, but not enough to move a statistical needle.
 
Last night it was laugh out loud funny as Trump blustered about the craziest things. An SNL sketch about the debate couldn’t have provided more comedy.

But as I reflect on it today, it’s less funny and much more sad and scary because the race will still be close, there will be millions of Americans who vote for Trump, and he still has a chance to win despite the facts that in front of a national audience last night he screamed about immigrants eating people’s pets, claimed that states run by democrats allow infanticide, touted an endorsement from and praised Victor Orban, got so easily triggered by comments about his rallies that he had to take the bait and focus on that as if it were at all important, called the 2017 incident in Charlottesville (or at least the way he addressed it) “perfection,” denied things he has actually said numerous times and which he has been recorded saying numerous times, randomly threw in that he read his female opponent “puts out,” downplayed both January 6 and his involvement in it then shifted the blame for what happened to Nancy Pelosi (WTF?), called the cop who shot a woman trying to climb through the shattered window of a barricaded door to get to members of Congress a “crazed cop,” incoherently jumped from one idea to another completely unrelated idea over and over again, referred to “run spot run” as four sentences, among many other things (I could go on and on). What is wrong with anyone who can vote for that guy to be POTUS?
 
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