Harris v. Trump Debate Thread | Trump DECLINES another debate (in ALL CAPS!)

Harris finally used what everyone knew would work but hadn't beeen used until now. Direct criticism of his past shittery with well-timed aggression and not backing down. Both Hillary and Joe tried the "lets be nice and professional" route. Sure they'd get their small quips in here and there but by and large they just let him do his thing and ignored his shittry. Harris OTOH was ready with all torpido tubes loaded and flooded. When he said something she was opening those outer doors and ploting a solution then fired when it was her turn to respond.

Was she perfect...fuck no. In fact she started shaky and dodged several questions and didn't directly anwser some that didn't require an expounded response but caught the downhill as she was powershifting from 3rd to 6th then after the break she hit ludicrous speed and trump's cuisinart crapped out.

It was a brilliant use of employing the Art of War strategy in a shittastic debate
 
Watching the debate with my husband was a revelation — he is engaged in politics but so loathes Trump that he actively avoids most of the Trump speeches and social media I consume. I sort of made him let me explain the pet eating back-story ahead of the debate because (a) my husband is the one who first read and got me to read the NYT story on Haitian migrants in Springfield Ohio (before the pet-eating lies) and (b) I thought it HAD to come up somehow tonight, though I didn’t think Trump would dive into it so early or so directly. I more expected a wink and nod reference.

Anyway, to my husband a lot of what I would call standard Trump rally rabbit holes were eye-opening. My husband was laughing repeatedly at how insane Trump sounded and asking what Trump was even talking about.

Hopefully a lot of other normal people who don’t regularly consume Trump’s insanity had a similar experience tonight.
His crazy is now out there for everyone to see; it was a peek into his rallies and "Truth" account. No one can hide behind ignorance. If they vote for him, they are knowingly voting for crazy. One the one hand, I think this makes it more likely Kamala will win. On the other hand, sadly, millions of Americans will knowingly vote for crazy. That is bad for our country.
 
He didn’t lose it.

For Trump, a tie is a win.
You’re a complete fool. Yesterday all the national polls indicated a virtual TIE 50/50 going into the debate (event in your terminology). A “tie” last night does NOT equate to a win. But that’s beside the point. The point is, it was NOT a “tie”. Harris won 49-0 pitched a shut out.
 
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Cut Zoo some slack. He was in full on pessimist mode last night. I’ve been there in politics and sports.
You were in full on pessimist mode when Joe Biden was completely imploding on the debate stage in front of the entire world. Zoo was in full on pessimist mode when Kamala Harris was turning in one of the most decisive debate ass kickings in modern American political history, one that even every single prominent Republican politician, commentator, or medium member acknowledged occurred. It’s an apples to hand grenades comparison. I am really hoping that last night was Zoo performing some kind of bit because otherwise it was, to put it kindly, very bizarre.
 

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Here are the quote from the one writer who thought trump won and they are glorious

Daniel McCarthy, editor of the periodical Modern Age By staking ground as the outsider candidate, Trump won. He emphasized his willingness to fire officials who performed badly, while Harris boasted about a long line of establishment Republicans who have endorsed her, including Dick Cheney. If Washington needs profound change, it won’t come from the vice president

McCarthy Winning the coin toss before the debate even began set up the most pivotal moment, which was Trump’s closing question for Harris, asking why she and the administration in which she serves haven’t already done the things she promises to do.

McCarthy Harris’s lectern was too short, accentuating how much smaller she is.
 
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