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Harris v. Trump Debate Thread | Trump DECLINES another debate (in ALL CAPS!)

RockyMtnHoo said:
I’m guessing asking a Pub who doesn’t like Trump to vote for Harris, is kinda like asking a UNC fan to root for NC State in the national championship game against Duke.
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That’s a really good analogy. Hadn’t thought of it that way but that’s a good one.

I will say that for me personally, and I recognize I am likely in a very small minority of Carolina fans who would feel this way, but I would absolutely, positively pull for Duke in that scenario, just like I was pulling for them when they played NC State in the NCAA tournament this past year. I cannot even put into words fit for print how much I hate NC State.
 
CFordUNC said:
That’s a really good analogy. Hadn’t thought of it that way but that’s a good one.

I will say that for me personally, and I recognize I am likely in a very small minority of Carolina fans who would feel this way, but I would absolutely, positively pull for Duke in that scenario, just like I was pulling for them when they played NC State in the NCAA tournament this past year. I cannot even put into words fit for print how much I hate NC State.
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I’m also guessing the UNC fans 40+ feel the same way, but under 40 the opposite.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Wow. How far we have fallen. When you look at who people thought won those past debates mentioned, the loser had between 25-28% of the viewers believe they won the debate. This most recent debate was the most lopsided I have seen and Trump’s performance was the worst I have seen (even compared to his prior debate performances) and he got as many as 37% of the viewers to believe he won.
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A Theory to Explain Modern Politics: 'Calcification' | Newser

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These days, it seems that Democrats will vote for Democrats, and Republicans will vote for Republicans, no matter what happens during the election cycle. This "calcification" of American politics is explored in a New York Times essay by Ezra Klein, who draws from the work of political scientists John Sides, Chris Tausanovitch, and Lynn Vavreck in their new book. Klein points to a stat he finds "shocking"—in 1952, 50% of voters saw a big difference between the two parties, but that figure had risen to 90% by 2020. Decades ago, then, if voters were disillusioned by a particular candidate in their own party, they might consider voting for a rival because the parties weren't seen as so fundamentally different. These days, there's little chance of that.
 
Icky Mettle said:
Wow. How far we have fallen. When you look at who people thought won those past debates mentioned, the loser had between 25-28% of the viewers believe they won the debate. This most recent debate was the most lopsided I have seen and Trump’s performance was the worst I have seen (even compared to his prior debate performances) and he got as many as 37% of the viewers to believe he won.
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I would guess a fair number of those 37% didnt watch, either.
 
CFordUNC said:
That’s a really good analogy. Hadn’t thought of it that way but that’s a good one.

I will say that for me personally, and I recognize I am likely in a very small minority of Carolina fans who would feel this way, but I would absolutely, positively pull for Duke in that scenario, just like I was pulling for them when they played NC State in the NCAA tournament this past year. I cannot even put into words fit for print how much I hate NC State.
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dook** over ncst is a no brainer. My wish is that ncst never wins another game/match in any sport for the next 100 years.
 
heelinhell said:
dook** over ncst is a no brainer. My wish is that ncst never wins another game/match in any sport for the next 100 years.
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You guys are crazy. And yes, I'm a UNC fan over 40 who lives in Raleigh!! In this scenario I am pulling for State all the way. I don't even have to think about that for a second.
 
EyeballKid said:
You’re complicit regardless.

To steal a line from a Rush song, “if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice.” Throwing a vote away on a third party—or choosing not to vote at all—is still complicity in a 2-party system.
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Ah, Rush! Yes!
 
RockyMtnHoo said:
I’m guessing asking a Pub who doesn’t like Trump to vote for Harris, is kinda like asking a UNC fan to root for NC State in the national championship game against Duke.
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Are we talking basketball? Because that would be an easy call.
 
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