Harris v. Trump Debate Thread | Trump DECLINES another debate (in ALL CAPS!)

I was also a little worried after the first few minutes. She was very clearly nervous AF.

There were opportunities for her to BUST his ass early that she didn’t take. I do not agree with her strategists who are clearly coaching her to concede the economy is bad. It’s not, and the numbers back that up. There are ways to craft an argument which would acknowledge that there is work to do while highlighting what has already been done.

And tariffs. My god this guy is a buffoon. I was really hoping she would talk about the effect his tariffs had on the farming industry in particular and the government bail outs that ensued. Tell people how the retaliatory efforts from China reduced U.S. agricultural exports by 27 billion from mid 2018 when the tariffs were imposed to the end of 2019. And then make sure you highlight how the bail out funds were distributed in a partisan manner. If your county voted red for Trump you got your money first.

These people have no business anywhere near the White House. I’m so glad she calmed down and spanked his ass!
Yeah, the economy is a tricky one right now. The indicators all look good, but there’s a “perception” it’s not because prices are more than consumers are used to paying. It’s not easy to message to the general public because you don’t want to talk down to folks by saying “it’s better than you think”, while paychecks aren’t going as far as they did pre-pandemic. Joe Voter doesn’t want to hear that our inflation isn’t as bad as other countries.
 
I mean I get it. And most of us in here who understand it are not your typical voter. I just don’t agree with conceding the point entirely.
Agreed. It requires a delicate touch to hype job growth, record stock values, wage increases and still show sympathy and concern for those struggling with housing and transportation costs, grocery and utility bills.
But it’s not like they haven’t had plenty of time to craft a narrative. They could dovetail this with her agenda for how to make things better.
 
never seen so many cry babies than i have on twitter today.

Twitter is full of MAGA! I have considered deleting my account several times in the last month. If not for a few friends and a mutual PM chain, I would have.
 
Sidebar - did you know she apparently won a world championship in 2023? I have no idea how that was possible
Ha ha. I have no idea. I thought I heard on NPR that she was an academic who was responsible for getting breakdancing in. But honestly, I haven't paid much attention. That comment had two purposes: (1) to make a point and (2) to make myself sound relevant and informed. I suppose I need to work on the second one. 🤣🤣
 
Yeah, the economy is a tricky one right now. The indicators all look good, but there’s a “perception” it’s not because prices are more than consumers are used to paying. It’s not easy to message to the general public because you don’t want to talk down to folks by saying “it’s better than you think”, while paychecks aren’t going as far as they did pre-pandemic. Joe Voter doesn’t want to hear that our inflation isn’t as bad as other countries.
Another poster has the perfect answer earlier in the thread -something along the lines of…
When Trump left the White House, unemployment was as at its highest since the Great Depression.
Since we’ve been on the job,
The stock market is at an all time high.
We’ve created record number of jobs.
Unemployment is at an all time low.
What we have to do is make sure that all Americans can benefit from this surging economy and we do that by (insert your policy here)
 
Ha ha. I have no idea. I thought I heard on NPR that she was an academic who was responsible for getting breakdancing in. But honestly, I haven't paid much attention. That comment had two purposes: (1) to make a point and (2) to make myself sound relevant and informed. I suppose I need to work on the second one. 🤣🤣
OK, here you go

 
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