Healthcare & Health Insurance Catch-All | GOP seeking a plan

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Sorta weird to see the GOP targeting insurance companies. I didn't think I'd see the day. Who next? Auto dealers?

Do they think that people are clamoring to pay for health expenditures out of their pockets? To comparison shop doctors (if that was even possible)? To have an accident then think about how many fingers you can afford to attach?
 
Allow up to $25,000 in healthcare expense deductions? Where does the $25k to pay the doctor/hospital up front come from? What happens if you need a heart transplant? How does that get paid for?

And allow a tax deduction for health insurance premiums? Most Americans get insurance through their employers and those premiums are already tax exempt.

This sounds suspiciously like "let them eat cake" And idiot MAGA will suck it up until their kid is seriously injured or diagnosed with a serious illness and they are left holding the bag.

Josh Hawley must think we are all as stupid as his voters.
 
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tax deductions help out folks in high marginal tax brackets and are least useful to folks in low income marginal tax brackets. Yeah, GOP!!! Way to crack that affordability nut! You really have your finger on the pulse.
 
nycfan said:

Why Republicans aren’t eager to cut an Obamacare deal​

"No one wants a primary challenge where the accusation is: ‘You supported Obamacare.'"


“… For other conservatives, any blowback will be worth it if it means they get to rein in a system the party has fundamentally opposed since its launch more than a decade ago.


“Democrats have to start acknowledging they blew it,” Wisconsin Republican Sen. Ron Johnson told reporters Tuesday. “Obamacare has been a huge disaster.”

… “The base of the Republican Party still yet thinks Obamacare is a swear word, so supporting it in that manner is just a bridge too far for most Republican members,” said Stan Barnes, an Arizona-based GOP strategist and former state senator.

“Who wants to risk that in any kind of deep red district, or even a swing district? No one wants a primary challenge where the accusation is, ‘You supported Obamacare.”…”
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What these idiots don't understand is that if you refer to Obamacare as the ACA then vast numbers of Republicans do like and support it, and large numbers of GOP Congressmen in rural areas have constituents who do use it in large numbers. A few years after Obamacare was implemented a survey of ACA users in deep-red Kentucky showed that if you called the program Obamacare they hated it and said they didn't like it, but if you called it the ACA they supported it and said it was great, and a good number were actually using it. Beyond showing the clear ignorance of the MAGA base, it also shows just how deceptive Republicans have been in their approach to the program.

The ACA isn't perfect and certainly we all need something better than the gradually collapsing system we have now, but in fact the ACA did work well and was a major improvement over what we had before, which was essentially nothing. And one reason it is currently struggling is due to repeated GOP attempts over the years to cut its funding and limit what it can do. It's also worth pointing out that the ACA was based on a Republican healthcare plan; they only hated it after a Democratic POTUS adopted and implemented it.

I continue to believe that ultimately the GOP (and especially Trump's) attacks on the ACA are because they know it is Obama's signature achievement and so Trump will stop at nothing to destroy it and then gloat about it.
 
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No, what's broken the system is your party over the past decade doing everything they could to limit and defund and damage the ACA without actually abolishing it because it's been too popular to totally abolish, even among your own base. And your party has literally nothing to replace it with either. So now the best they can come up with is just giving some money directly to people, except that what they're offering won't even make a dent in serious medical expenses for most people. And your party wants to allow health insurance companies to deny treatment to people with pre-existing conditions, which would likely cause a national healthcare crisis. The longer Mike Johnson serves as Speaker the more he does to destroy any notion that he's a Christian, whatever he claims otherwise.
 
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