Hubert Davis Catch-all - HUBERT OFFICIALLY OUT

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altmin said:
My ad hoc staff filter helps a LOT on that thread
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I was planning to send you a PM today about this, but I'll say it here.

That filter is the only thing that has made IC readable since Friday morning. It is the best thing ever and I am sooooooooooooo thankful for it.

youre awesome bill murray GIF
 
farce© said:
AMA thread?
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Ben is answering people's questions as freely as i think he can. He is being surprisingly forthright on some things, like Hubert and Tanner seemingly not getting along, Caleb Love being asked to transfer, how the UNC admin kind of bungled this process by giving Hubert hope when all they were trying to do is signal courtesy.
 
SnoopRob said:
My take is more that he didn't handle the loss well and was taking a little time for himself at precisely the worst time.

The question for me...is that because he knew his chair had gotten a whole lot hotter and he wanted to have a bit of time to prepare or was it he was blind to the fact that his chair was now blazing hot and he thought it was business as usual before after-season meetings came?

But, like you, I'm filling in the holes in what we know with assumptions and I'd love to know the real answers. (Poor Mption. :()
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Can't speak for him but I'd have done it to keep from taking all the anger, hurt and disappointment on the somewhat undeserving and to keep myself from making a spectacle of myself and the program.
 
CarolinaFever said:
I don't ever recall Hubert saying after a game that he needed to do a better job coaching. Dean and Roy said it often after losses.
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Not that you guys give a fuck what I think... but until you divorce yourselves from this mindset of "The way Dean/Roy would do it" this is destined to fail. You have to hire someone with the gravitas to say IDGAF how Dean did it, while maintaining, publicly at least, a certain respect for the way it was done. An incredibly tough job.

The people in charge of the purse strings have to be willing to let go of the past.
 
SnoopRob said:
I was planning to send you a PM today about this, but I'll say it here.

That filter is the only thing that has made IC readable since Friday morning. It is the best thing ever and I am sooooooooooooo thankful for it.

youre awesome bill murray GIF
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You can create a staff posts only filter?
 
dukeman92 said:
Not that you guys give a fuck what I think... but until you divorce yourselves from this mindset of "The way Dean/Roy would do it" this is destined to fail. You have to hire someone with the gravitas to say IDGAF how Dean did it, while maintaining, publicly at least, a certain respect for the way it was done. An incredibly tough job.

The people in charge of the purse strings have to be willing to let go of the past.
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I think you're generally right, and I think it's very clear that the people with purse strings are letting go of the past. But the specific example you're responding to is less an example of clinging to Dean/Roy tradition and more about comparing how great coaches operate to how not-great coaches operate. There are plenty of ways in which our program has been too focused on doing things the way Dean and/or Roy would, which has made us slow to adapt to a modern world, but expecting the head coach to take responsibility after losses and own up to his own shortcomings when appropriate is simply something you should expect a great coach to do.
 
rodoheel said:
You can create a staff posts only filter?
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www.on3.com

Browser based add-on to sort a thread by staff posts only. - Forums

I have been reluctant to take this step to provide a way to sort by staff posts, but I don't think a server side solution I have suggested is going to be implemented anytime soon. I have been hesitant because there are so many different ways to view this forum vis a vis, computer/phones/...
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I made an add-on to the board software so On3 could make this a default option for everyone, but they wouldn't install it, so I made a user level version instead. (I also gave them an add-on to make the follow function work like any other notification, but they wouldn't put that in either. It's been used here by Rock for months and months now with no problem.)
 
farce© said:
So Hubert was treated poorly despite being given five years to right the ship, yet the new guy will be given zero time for program building and culture change? He has to excel in year one or it’s all a mistake?

Seems a little extreme, especially if their top choice is still coaching in the Final Four next week.
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get ready for the people who are mad about how HD's tenure ended to behave in the same unreasonable way about the new coach as the people who they vehemently criticized who were unreasonable about HD and/or never wanted him in the first place.
 
Peppers49 said:
Apparently UNC’s admins created some confusion last week and kinda gave Hubert the impression his job was safe even after the donors had pulled their support and the situation had passed the point of no return.

Poor look on Bubba if true, but also not very surprising with how we’ve handle these situations lately.
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who is saying this?

anyone at UNC who gave HD the impression that his job was safe after the VCU debacle is a fucking irresponsible moron.
 
rodoheel said:
I think you're generally right, and I think it's very clear that the people with purse strings are letting go of the past. But the specific example you're responding to is less an example of clinging to Dean/Roy tradition and more about comparing how great coaches operate to how not-great coaches operate. There are plenty of ways in which our program has been too focused on doing things the way Dean and/or Roy would, which has made us slow to adapt to a modern world, but expecting the head coach to take responsibility after losses and own up to his own shortcomings when appropriate is simply something you should expect a great coach to do.
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I think we're in agreement. I was more or less using @CarolinaFever post to make my point. Not to absolve your future coach of responsibility.
 
4thgenheel said:
get ready for the people who are mad about how HD's tenure ended to behave in the same unreasonable way about the new coach as the people who they vehemently criticized who were unreasonable about HD and/or never wanted him in the first place.
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Oh you can count on it. But the difference is I’d bet there won’t be anyone openly rooting for losses that would tip the balance in favor of their objective, as opposed to rooting for wins that would counter their objective.

Multiple posters who are currently very active on this thread admitted they’d rather see a poor end to the season that would cost HD his job as opposed to a just-passable one that saved it. People posting right now, who preferred Carolina lose games so it would help their case.

That, I’d bet, you won’t see.
 
SnoopRob said:
You gotta forgive heelinhell, he's been day drinking for almost 2 hours now.
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love you man :love:

I've now been day drinking for 3 hours now and through the fog still wonder why we would give a new coach a contract for more than 4 years if we gave CHD only 5 years to rebuild a declining program, keeping in mind that this is the administration that hired Uncle Bill
 
duluoz said:
Oh you can count on it. But the difference is I’d bet there won’t be anyone openly rooting for losses that would tip the balance in favor of their objective, as opposed to wins that would counter their objective.

Multiple posters who are currently very active on this thread admitted they’d rather see a poor end to the season that would cost HD his job as opposed to a just-passable one that saved it. People posting right now, who preferred Carolina lose games so it would help their case.

That, I’d bet, you won’t see.
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i wouldn't make any of those bets until we know who the hire is.

but i can promise you that people will absolutely root for poor results in the same way some did with HD if in their estimation the new coach's tenure starts going south.
 
4thgenheel said:
i wouldn't make any of those bets until we know who the hire is.

but i can promise you that people will absolutely root for poor results in the same way some did with HD if in their estimation the new coach's tenure starts going south.
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Someone on this board??

It’ll be a frosty day in hell before I root for a Carolina loss, like some of these “fans” actively posting here did.
 
duluoz said:
Someone on this board??

It’ll be a frosty day in hell before I root for a Carolina loss, like some of these “fans” actively posting here did.
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probably. those types are everywhere.

i'm with you, will never root for us to do poorly even if i have questions about the direction of things.
 
My bet is we find out that not everyone is clamoring for this job and will have to go further down the list than the "insiders" have claimed.

Same thing happened when we got stuck with Doh. TJO would be as good as we can get, imo, and Byington hopefully as far down as we would have to reach
 
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