I don't think we're going to fire Hubert this year. But if anyone looks at Hubert's 5-year record at UNC and thinks "no one is going to want our job if we fire him because they will think we have completely irrational expectations" then I just don't agree at all.
I think Stevens probably would be a good coach still. Personally I think the chances he wants to voluntarily leave the gig he has now to get back into coaching - much less college coaching - are vanishingly small.
There would be oodles of coaches who would jump at our job...just not the ones that posters here are clamoring for
I think anyone who claims to know how any particular coach would feel about our job opening is just speculating. But as I said, I do feel confident that the idea that UNC would be broadly perceived as crazy and unrealistic for firing Hubert isn't right.
Then you refuse to accept that the biggest advantage UNC ever had has been devaluing at the the same rate a UNC degree has versus the money available in the NBA. In terms of real life, both our experience in this kind of recruiting and Hubert's tenure started in 2021. We started over with a lot of things that year
I understand that point, but it seems to have very little to do with the post I made that you’re responding to. Whether we change coaches or not has no impact on the long-term value of a UNC degree. As you say, that has more to do with how the college sports landscape has changed around UNC, not how we’ve changed. And we certainly can’t will the old college sports paradigm back into being just through wishful thinking.
Yeah, I don’t think coaches even think that way. They are competitive people. I think the good ones— and the ones who think they’re good— always feel like they are going to do a great job and don’t cower to fans’ expectations.
Well if competition is a motivator, then our job would be heaven for a coach. Come in and go up against dook** twice a year or maybe three times. Compete with dook** for the top ten 5 star recruits year after year and know that if you don't kick dook's ass year after year and are not winning 80% of your games gets you fired then come on down !
agree 100%
So is it your belief that Indiana would have been better off if they had been more patient with coaches like Mike Davis and Tom Crean?
I'm think nowadays people are looking for that big payday. If it works out that's fantastic. If not they are set for life and still get a job somewhere else. Even Doherty got 2 more chances.
I think the second time he was replaced by a UNC alum who was also a former Kansas head coach, he realized he should hang it up. I mean, if that happens to you twice….
I think your examples aren’t similar to having players who have shown their ability to shoot well at the college level prior to coming to UNC (with some then moving on to another school and seeing their shooting improve).
Brad Stevens hasn’t coached at the college level in over a decade, and he hasn’t coached basketball at all in 5 years. I wouldn’t be surprised if he came back to the college ranks and dominated if he wanted to, but I still think he and Jay Wright would be riskier options than the guys that already have experience operating in the NIL/transfer rules world.
You straw-manned the shit out this situation. It's crazy to ask anyone to come in here and do what Duke is doing. No other program in the sport is on their level right now. But that's largely because they've had back-to-back NPOY freshmen who were built-in, can't-miss talents and also happened to be Duke fans who were never going to play anywhere else. That's highly unusual and won't happen every year. And Hubert's had a very long leash to this point. UNC's been plenty fair to him.
Doherty showed us the absolute floor.
