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CFordUNC said:
For the very first time, I don’t think we do. I’ve been optimistic to a major fault for the last several years. No more. The federal government openly hates half of all Americans and relishes in killing them in broad daylight, and at least a third of Americans- including some on this very board- clap like seals cheering them on. It’s beyond political or ideological difference anymore. It’s not about Republican or Democrat, or a liberal or conservative. It’s pure, unadulterated bloodlust hatred. There’s no coming back from that IMO.
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O-hi-o.
 
Calheel said:
O-hi-o.
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MAGA made their Idol Trump. Now they worship it. A classic Golden Calf dynamic, except this calf is toxic.

As a former Republican, I'm appalled at docile or complicit GOP and MAGA bad actors when federal officers are used to kill American citizen(s) in a free state. Yet ironically, literally forgive and pardon rioters who attacked Federal Officers in THE House of the People - Congress. JFC.

The 1st and 2nd Amendments were written to prevent or minimize federal officers from conducting law enforcement at the behest of the President/King in free states.

Enough is enough. Shut down ICE. End this failed (second) Presidency.
 
When you are looking to cast blame ask yourself, who deliberately flooded this country with millions of illegals (many of which are violent criminals) leading directly to these ICE operations? Who encouraged all these protests for years and said protestors wouldn't stop and shouldn't stop while they rampaged killing dozens of people and causing billions in damage during the BLM riots? Who bailed out rioters? Who cheered on all the attacks against Telsa dealerships for Elon trying to eliminate the fraud and waste of taxpayer dollars (including yours)...look no further than Minneapolis for a prime example? Who has covered for and protect, right now, all of these third world people welcomed into this country, given government assistance, and who went on to rip us off for untold billions more of our taxpayer dollars? Which party encourages and defends all of this resistance to law enforcement? And who is it that says nothing when a law enforcement officer is killed, or and 12-year-old girl is raped and killed by illegals allowed to walk the streets, or when truck drivers who are here illegally, can't speak or read English, are given driver's licenses by Democrat states only to go on and kill Americans on our highways? Which party is that? There is no comparison between the parties when it comes to which party's policies have become the most destructive and which one hasn't.

I mean, think about the level of blind loyalty required to agree and stay silent when a party says to its supporters: Hey, we are going to open the border, during a pandemic no less, and allow millions upon millions of unvetted people from some of the most dangerous places on earth to simply walk right on in. And we'll tell America the border is secure. And if that isn't good enough, we'll fly them in or put them on buses and take them to wherever we want and give them all this free stuff while ignoring all these Americans in need and the fact that we are 38 trillion in debt. Is there anyone who uses rational thought that thinks that is, in any way, a good idea? I know there are politicians who see potential future votes who do so they can keep their sorry asses in office at all costs but I'm talking about average everyday Americans. Are you shocked when people who realize how dangerous an open border is and the damage it leads to try to correct the situation?

This country is simply divided. Encouraged by politicians who use the division for their benefit. Supported by people who take whatever position their party tells them to take. And as passionately as you feel about what you believe in, there are just as many people on the other side who feel equally as passionately about the opposite. Joe Biden's administration did massive damage to this country on top of all the damage done before and I hope the current administration only increases its efforts to correct the damage done. I fully expect Democrats to fail to course correct and only continue down their destructive path of resistance so, expect things to only get worse.
 
PandemicBlue said:
When you are looking to cast blame ask yourself, who deliberately flooded this country with millions of illegals (many of which are violent criminals) leading directly to these ICE operations? Who encouraged all these protests for years and said protestors wouldn't stop and shouldn't stop while they rampaged killing dozens of people and causing billions in damage during the BLM riots? Who bailed out rioters? Who cheered on all the attacks against Telsa dealerships for Elon trying to eliminate the fraud and waste of taxpayer dollars (including yours)...look no further than Minneapolis for a prime example? Who has covered for and protect, right now, all of these third world people welcomed into this country, given government assistance, and who went on to rip us off for untold billions more of our taxpayer dollars? Which party encourages and defends all of this resistance to law enforcement? And who is it that says nothing when a law enforcement officer is killed, or and 12-year-old girl is raped and killed by illegals allowed to walk the streets, or when truck drivers who are here illegally, can't speak or read English, are given driver's licenses by Democrat states only to go on and kill Americans on our highways? Which party is that? There is no comparison between the parties when it comes to which party's policies have become the most destructive and which one hasn't.

I mean, think about the level of blind loyalty required to agree and stay silent when a party says to its supporters: Hey, we are going to open the border, during a pandemic no less, and allow millions upon millions of unvetted people from some of the most dangerous places on earth to simply walk right on in. And we'll tell America the border is secure. And if that isn't good enough, we'll fly them in or put them on buses and take them to wherever we want and give them all this free stuff while ignoring all these Americans in need and the fact that we are 38 trillion in debt. Is there anyone who uses rational thought that thinks that is, in any way, a good idea? I know there are politicians who see potential future votes who do so they can keep their sorry asses in office at all costs but I'm talking about average everyday Americans. Are you shocked when people who realize how dangerous an open border is and the damage it leads to try to correct the situation?

This country is simply divided. Encouraged by politicians who use the division for their benefit. Supported by people who take whatever position their party tells them to take. And as passionately as you feel about what you believe in, there are just as many people on the other side who feel equally as passionately about the opposite. Joe Biden's administration did massive damage to this country on top of all the damage done before and I hope the current administration only increases its efforts to correct the damage done. I fully expect Democrats to fail to course correct and only continue down their destructive path of resistance so, expect things to only get worse.
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What percentage of violent crime in the country is committed by immigrants? How many mass shootings are committed by immigrants? Don't guve me that pathetic bullshit argument. What the other side you talk about feels compassionate about is hate, racism, bigotry and cruelty. Jesus didn't have a problem with immigrants. You must be a bad Christian.
 
PandemicBlue said:
When you are looking to cast blame ask yourself, who deliberately flooded this country with millions of illegals (many of which are violent criminals) leading directly to these ICE operations? Who encouraged all these protests for years and said protestors wouldn't stop and shouldn't stop while they rampaged killing dozens of people and causing billions in damage during the BLM riots? Who bailed out rioters? Who cheered on all the attacks against Telsa dealerships for Elon trying to eliminate the fraud and waste of taxpayer dollars (including yours)...look no further than Minneapolis for a prime example? Who has covered for and protect, right now, all of these third world people welcomed into this country, given government assistance, and who went on to rip us off for untold billions more of our taxpayer dollars? Which party encourages and defends all of this resistance to law enforcement? And who is it that says nothing when a law enforcement officer is killed, or and 12-year-old girl is raped and killed by illegals allowed to walk the streets, or when truck drivers who are here illegally, can't speak or read English, are given driver's licenses by Democrat states only to go on and kill Americans on our highways? Which party is that? There is no comparison between the parties when it comes to which party's policies have become the most destructive and which one hasn't.

I mean, think about the level of blind loyalty required to agree and stay silent when a party says to its supporters: Hey, we are going to open the border, during a pandemic no less, and allow millions upon millions of unvetted people from some of the most dangerous places on earth to simply walk right on in. And we'll tell America the border is secure. And if that isn't good enough, we'll fly them in or put them on buses and take them to wherever we want and give them all this free stuff while ignoring all these Americans in need and the fact that we are 38 trillion in debt. Is there anyone who uses rational thought that thinks that is, in any way, a good idea? I know there are politicians who see potential future votes who do so they can keep their sorry asses in office at all costs but I'm talking about average everyday Americans. Are you shocked when people who realize how dangerous an open border is and the damage it leads to try to correct the situation?

This country is simply divided. Encouraged by politicians who use the division for their benefit. Supported by people who take whatever position their party tells them to take. And as passionately as you feel about what you believe in, there are just as many people on the other side who feel equally as passionately about the opposite. Joe Biden's administration did massive damage to this country on top of all the damage done before and I hope the current administration only increases its efforts to correct the damage done. I fully expect Democrats to fail to course correct and only continue down their destructive path of resistance so, expect things to only get worse.
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You believe bullshit.
 
PandemicBlue said:
When you are looking to cast blame ask yourself, who deliberately flooded this country with millions of illegals (many of which are violent criminals) leading directly to these ICE operations? Who encouraged all these protests for years and said protestors wouldn't stop and shouldn't stop while they rampaged killing dozens of people and causing billions in damage during the BLM riots? Who bailed out rioters? Who cheered on all the attacks against Telsa dealerships for Elon trying to eliminate the fraud and waste of taxpayer dollars (including yours)...look no further than Minneapolis for a prime example? Who has covered for and protect, right now, all of these third world people welcomed into this country, given government assistance, and who went on to rip us off for untold billions more of our taxpayer dollars? Which party encourages and defends all of this resistance to law enforcement? And who is it that says nothing when a law enforcement officer is killed, or and 12-year-old girl is raped and killed by illegals allowed to walk the streets, or when truck drivers who are here illegally, can't speak or read English, are given driver's licenses by Democrat states only to go on and kill Americans on our highways? Which party is that? There is no comparison between the parties when it comes to which party's policies have become the most destructive and which one hasn't.

I mean, think about the level of blind loyalty required to agree and stay silent when a party says to its supporters: Hey, we are going to open the border, during a pandemic no less, and allow millions upon millions of unvetted people from some of the most dangerous places on earth to simply walk right on in. And we'll tell America the border is secure. And if that isn't good enough, we'll fly them in or put them on buses and take them to wherever we want and give them all this free stuff while ignoring all these Americans in need and the fact that we are 38 trillion in debt. Is there anyone who uses rational thought that thinks that is, in any way, a good idea? I know there are politicians who see potential future votes who do so they can keep their sorry asses in office at all costs but I'm talking about average everyday Americans. Are you shocked when people who realize how dangerous an open border is and the damage it leads to try to correct the situation?

This country is simply divided. Encouraged by politicians who use the division for their benefit. Supported by people who take whatever position their party tells them to take. And as passionately as you feel about what you believe in, there are just as many people on the other side who feel equally as passionately about the opposite. Joe Biden's administration did massive damage to this country on top of all the damage done before and I hope the current administration only increases its efforts to correct the damage done. I fully expect Democrats to fail to course correct and only continue down their destructive path of resistance so, expect things to only get worse.
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I'm not reading all that. But I'm happy for you. Or sorry that happened.
 
Man, I am very seriously considering earning myself a permanent ban from this board by what I’m considering saying in response to PandumbfuckBlew. What an absolute vile garbage shitstain of a human being to justify the murder of an American citizen by American law enforcement officers by bleating about the goddamn border.
 
PandemicBlue said:
When you are looking to cast blame ask yourself, who deliberately flooded this country with millions of illegals (many of which are violent criminals) leading directly to these ICE operations? Who encouraged all these protests for years and said protestors wouldn't stop and shouldn't stop while they rampaged killing dozens of people and causing billions in damage during the BLM riots? Who bailed out rioters? Who cheered on all the attacks against Telsa dealerships for Elon trying to eliminate the fraud and waste of taxpayer dollars (including yours)...look no further than Minneapolis for a prime example? Who has covered for and protect, right now, all of these third world people welcomed into this country, given government assistance, and who went on to rip us off for untold billions more of our taxpayer dollars? Which party encourages and defends all of this resistance to law enforcement? And who is it that says nothing when a law enforcement officer is killed, or and 12-year-old girl is raped and killed by illegals allowed to walk the streets, or when truck drivers who are here illegally, can't speak or read English, are given driver's licenses by Democrat states only to go on and kill Americans on our highways? Which party is that? There is no comparison between the parties when it comes to which party's policies have become the most destructive and which one hasn't.

I mean, think about the level of blind loyalty required to agree and stay silent when a party says to its supporters: Hey, we are going to open the border, during a pandemic no less, and allow millions upon millions of unvetted people from some of the most dangerous places on earth to simply walk right on in. And we'll tell America the border is secure. And if that isn't good enough, we'll fly them in or put them on buses and take them to wherever we want and give them all this free stuff while ignoring all these Americans in need and the fact that we are 38 trillion in debt. Is there anyone who uses rational thought that thinks that is, in any way, a good idea? I know there are politicians who see potential future votes who do so they can keep their sorry asses in office at all costs but I'm talking about average everyday Americans. Are you shocked when people who realize how dangerous an open border is and the damage it leads to try to correct the situation?

This country is simply divided. Encouraged by politicians who use the division for their benefit. Supported by people who take whatever position their party tells them to take. And as passionately as you feel about what you believe in, there are just as many people on the other side who feel equally as passionately about the opposite. Joe Biden's administration did massive damage to this country on top of all the damage done before and I hope the current administration only increases its efforts to correct the damage done. I fully expect Democrats to fail to course correct and only continue down their destructive path of resistance so, expect things to only get worse.
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Lol didn’t read.
 
CFordUNC said:
Man, I am very seriously considering earning myself a permanent ban from this board by what I’m considering saying in response to PandumbfuckBlew. What an absolute vile garbage shitstain of a human being to justify the murder of an American citizen by American law enforcement officers by bleating about the goddamn border.
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If they ban you they gotta ban us all.

Fuck that motherfucker.
 
PandemicBlue said:
When you are looking to cast blame ask yourself, who deliberately flooded this country with millions of illegals (many of which are violent criminals) leading directly to these ICE operations? Who encouraged all these protests for years and said protestors wouldn't stop and shouldn't stop while they rampaged killing dozens of people and causing billions in damage during the BLM riots? Who bailed out rioters? Who cheered on all the attacks against Telsa dealerships for Elon trying to eliminate the fraud and waste of taxpayer dollars (including yours)...look no further than Minneapolis for a prime example? Who has covered for and protect, right now, all of these third world people welcomed into this country, given government assistance, and who went on to rip us off for untold billions more of our taxpayer dollars? Which party encourages and defends all of this resistance to law enforcement? And who is it that says nothing when a law enforcement officer is killed, or and 12-year-old girl is raped and killed by illegals allowed to walk the streets, or when truck drivers who are here illegally, can't speak or read English, are given driver's licenses by Democrat states only to go on and kill Americans on our highways? Which party is that? There is no comparison between the parties when it comes to which party's policies have become the most destructive and which one hasn't.

I mean, think about the level of blind loyalty required to agree and stay silent when a party says to its supporters: Hey, we are going to open the border, during a pandemic no less, and allow millions upon millions of unvetted people from some of the most dangerous places on earth to simply walk right on in. And we'll tell America the border is secure. And if that isn't good enough, we'll fly them in or put them on buses and take them to wherever we want and give them all this free stuff while ignoring all these Americans in need and the fact that we are 38 trillion in debt. Is there anyone who uses rational thought that thinks that is, in any way, a good idea? I know there are politicians who see potential future votes who do so they can keep their sorry asses in office at all costs but I'm talking about average everyday Americans. Are you shocked when people who realize how dangerous an open border is and the damage it leads to try to correct the situation?

This country is simply divided. Encouraged by politicians who use the division for their benefit. Supported by people who take whatever position their party tells them to take. And as passionately as you feel about what you believe in, there are just as many people on the other side who feel equally as passionately about the opposite. Joe Biden's administration did massive damage to this country on top of all the damage done before and I hope the current administration only increases its efforts to correct the damage done. I fully expect Democrats to fail to course correct and only continue down their destructive path of resistance so, expect things to only get worse.
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You are a cunt.
 
PandemicBlue said:
When you are looking to cast blame ask yourself, who deliberately flooded this country with millions of illegals (many of which are violent criminals) leading directly to these ICE operations? Who encouraged all these protests for years and said protestors wouldn't stop and shouldn't stop while they rampaged killing dozens of people and causing billions in damage during the BLM riots? Who bailed out rioters? Who cheered on all the attacks against Telsa dealerships for Elon trying to eliminate the fraud and waste of taxpayer dollars (including yours)...look no further than Minneapolis for a prime example? Who has covered for and protect, right now, all of these third world people welcomed into this country, given government assistance, and who went on to rip us off for untold billions more of our taxpayer dollars? Which party encourages and defends all of this resistance to law enforcement? And who is it that says nothing when a law enforcement officer is killed, or and 12-year-old girl is raped and killed by illegals allowed to walk the streets, or when truck drivers who are here illegally, can't speak or read English, are given driver's licenses by Democrat states only to go on and kill Americans on our highways? Which party is that? There is no comparison between the parties when it comes to which party's policies have become the most destructive and which one hasn't.

I mean, think about the level of blind loyalty required to agree and stay silent when a party says to its supporters: Hey, we are going to open the border, during a pandemic no less, and allow millions upon millions of unvetted people from some of the most dangerous places on earth to simply walk right on in. And we'll tell America the border is secure. And if that isn't good enough, we'll fly them in or put them on buses and take them to wherever we want and give them all this free stuff while ignoring all these Americans in need and the fact that we are 38 trillion in debt. Is there anyone who uses rational thought that thinks that is, in any way, a good idea? I know there are politicians who see potential future votes who do so they can keep their sorry asses in office at all costs but I'm talking about average everyday Americans. Are you shocked when people who realize how dangerous an open border is and the damage it leads to try to correct the situation?

This country is simply divided. Encouraged by politicians who use the division for their benefit. Supported by people who take whatever position their party tells them to take. And as passionately as you feel about what you believe in, there are just as many people on the other side who feel equally as passionately about the opposite. Joe Biden's administration did massive damage to this country on top of all the damage done before and I hope the current administration only increases its efforts to correct the damage done. I fully expect Democrats to fail to course correct and only continue down their destructive path of resistance so, expect things to only get worse.
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The problem with your analysis is some of us are fact based, others are "opinion" based.

The illegal immigration catastrophe you speak of? That was every damn administration in the last 60 years. And we do not need brown shirts to correct a problem that has consensus (as we have here), what we need is less performative politics.

Biden was flawed, Harris was not anywhere near my top 10 choices, but any of it (or them) was at least an adult in charge.

Anyone who stands with Trump is admitting moral turpitude and an entirely transactional belief in interactions. There is nothing less "Christian" than DJT/MAGAt, even crazy ass MJT has realized it and said the same.

BTW, this is me being as kind and deliberate as I can in response, bc, as you said, I still have to live with all kinds of people just like you all around me.
 
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