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I think we can stop with all the criticism of Trump's policies regarding immigration. He his pro immigration and granting endangered immigrants expedited refugee status. I think ram and Calla would agree with me.

 
I think we can stop with all the criticism of Trump's policies regarding immigration. He his pro immigration and granting endangered immigrants expedited refugee status. I think ram and Calla would agree with me.

Small sample size, but from what I’ve seen, not really stoked about bringing in more white South African transplants.


no way do not want GIF by CBC
 
Small sample size, but from what I’ve seen, not really stoked about bringing in more white South African transplants.


no way do not want GIF by CBC
Especially since whites are so dominant in the upper echelons of business and society there. These people have to be either real losers, serious malcontents or both.
 
Especially since whites are so dominant in the upper echelons of business and society there. These people have to be either real losers, serious malcontents or both.
Yep. Was in SA summer of '23, and everything that seemed to be making money and doing well was white-owned/operated - hotels, stores, restaurants, safari/tourism businesses, vineyards, etc. You'd have to be a bit of a shit-for-brains to not lead a pretty lovely life as a white South African.

That said, there are certainly ominous rhetorical undertones that I'm sure spook some people, especially with the Zimbabwe experiment right next door.
 
Especially since whites are so dominant in the upper echelons of business and society there. These people have to be either real losers, serious malcontents or both.
So are you saying Trump wants to bring white losers and malcontents into our country because they will be welcomed into MAGA Nation and bolster Trump's base ?
 
Funny that he wants white people from a country that committed apartheid in favor of the whites there. I'm sure that has nothing to do with it.
 
Yep. Was in SA summer of '23, and everything that seemed to be making money and doing well was white-owned/operated - hotels, stores, restaurants, safari/tourism businesses, vineyards, etc. You'd have to be a bit of a shit-for-brains to not lead a pretty lovely life as a white South African.

That said, there are certainly ominous rhetorical undertones that I'm sure spook some people, especially with the Zimbabwe experiment right next door.


I knew a lot of guys in Guatemala back in the days of anti-communist military rule and civil war that had "fled" Zimbabwe for the safety of a racist Right-Wing government. Many of them were growing tobacco in the underdeveloped Pacific coast part of the country. No idea what became of them.

The only other person that I have known from Zimbabwe is this guy. Some of y'all might remember him.

 
A friend of mine who was class of '92 married a dude from Zimbabwe. I think his family had a nice family farm, but were not 'rich' by any stretch of the imagination. Anyway, they were basically forced off their land and lost everything in the late 90s and had to relocate back to the US. I think they are doing OK, but it was traumatic at the time. We bounced up to Victoria Falls on our trip and man, that country is a wreck. The falls might be one of the more dependable money makers in the land, and the area was still a disaster outside a few hotels/restaurants. Made Mozambique look like a peaceful, prosperous utopia, which is pretty damn difficult.
 
A friend of mine who was class of '92 married a dude from Zimbabwe. I think his family had a nice family farm, but were not 'rich' by any stretch of the imagination. Anyway, they were basically forced off their land and lost everything in the late 90s and had to relocate back to the US. I think they are doing OK, but it was traumatic at the time. We bounced up to Victoria Falls on our trip and man, that country is a wreck. The falls might be one of the more dependable money makers in the land, and the area was still a disaster outside a few hotels/restaurants. Made Mozambique look like a peaceful, prosperous utopia, which is pretty damn difficult.
South Africa fucked Zimbabwe over hard, back when it was Rhodesia. Lots of quasi military operations aimed at the ANC. Then Mugabe fucked them over again.
 
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