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ChileG said:
For about the 50 time on this thread in response to stories like this…unAmerican and evil.

But I guess some can justify this by saying (*checks notes*), “yeah, but you guys want to let rapists and murderers into our country so they can rape and murder everybody, durrrrrr.”
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Those same people also voted for and elected a rapist, and 34-time felon.

Law and order does not matter, only hate for immigrants.
 


MIKE JOHNSON: When ICE goes to execute a warrant, it's an administrative warrant and it's issued by an immigration judge, and that is a sufficient legal authority to go and apprehend someone
 
mpaer said:
Bet you a damn dollar the Cameras "film " will NOT be available after the next murder
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That always happens. If the video exonerates the police officer, it's available instantly. If it shows the police officer behaving badly, they will need to keep it private as part of their investigation. It gets released 6 months later when no one cares as much.
 
Governors should call in the Guard to get rid of ICE. Use force if necessary. These ICE goons are no match for the Guard, who actually have training. Trump should also be arrested and charged with domestic terrorism for allowing them to detain and shoot anyone they want with no probable cause.
 
mpaer said:
Bet you a damn dollar the Cameras "film " will NOT be available after the next murder
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I generally worry about police body cams and their influence on perception of police and civilian interactions.

In my limited experience, police body cams often provide a limited and poor view of what happened.

So many Americans seem to think body cams work in real life as they do in Law & Order and the various CSI type shows. They think LEO cameras should produce good quality video.

And, when LEO body cams don’t clearly show that law enforcement acted badly and/or illegally, the bulk of the public sides with law enforcement’s view of what happened.

Also, how often are we told that “Officer Smith’s body cam was malfunctioning” or “it wasn’t turned on.”

Observers of ICE, CBP, HSI, and other LEO’s need to continue videoing law enforcement’s actions.

LEO body cams are more likely to add no clarity to what happened than to add clarity.
 
korgguy1971 said:
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Rockland County is on the west side of the Tappan Zee Bridge. It’s just north of the New Jersey state line and runs on both sides of the New York State Thruway as it shifts from running East-West across the Tappan Zee and then curves to N/S as it heads to Albany.

It’s 61% white; after being 87% white in 1980 and 80% in 1990. It was definitely a white flight county in the ‘50’s, ‘60’s, and ‘70’s. It was a popular county for NYPD and NYFD personnel to live. Latino, Asian and mixed race populations have grown a lot since 1990.

Rockland is 30+% Jewish; with half the Jewish population being Orthodox or Hasidic.

Rockland County is not a lefty/liberal part of New York.
 
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